Aluminum Rods

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Frankie70GS, Jun 22, 2023.

  1. Frankie70GS

    Frankie70GS Long Island NY

    Ok. So I thought that I was just going for a cam. Things evolved. Wound up pulling the engine out because the deep dump pan would not clear the flex plate. Probably a blessing. Any how. We decided that we're not liking the slight vertical roughness on the cylinder walls. Pistons were too tight ! Always had a problem starting the engine after it got warm. Now that we can actually see them. So. Obviously aluminum beefy rods. The pistons we can see are JE. But nothing on the rods other than a part #. Same on all. #33526. Does anyone know what rods these are?
     

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  2. Stevem

    Stevem Well-Known Member

    The rods look like TA brand billets.

    What matters most with the Rods is how many passes are on them if the motor was run at the strip.

    Most racers will pay it safe and just toss them after one full season of racing, on the street you might go 3 to 4 years.

    You cylinder walls are also showing signs that the corners of all the rings at there gap where not dressed over, and this will add a ton of fiction, heat and ware to the motor.
    It's hours of we'll spend work to dress all the corners because these edeges also dig into the ring groove in the Pistons .
     
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  3. Skyhawk

    Skyhawk Well-Known Member

    I wouldnt worry about the rods if they look ok. I put 700 passes on mine in the skyhawk. The set in the procharged car had over 400 plus street miles and i still have them. Rpm seems to be more of the issue than heat cycles. I dont think that car saw any kind of rpm so you will be fine. Worse case you can send them to be checked. I think its around 200 to have them checked.
    john jr
     
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  4. Frankie70GS

    Frankie70GS Long Island NY

    Thanks. I've decided to take it all down and have the cylinders honed and check everything out. And go from there. Just curious about the brand of rods. Don't see any stamping other than the part #.
     
  5. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    9th season on my GRP rods....usually shift 6200-6500 rpm. Lost track of number of passes. Other than taking them out and checking is there any indication that they are tired?
    I wonder who makes TA alum rods?
     
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  6. TurboCrazy

    TurboCrazy Well-Known Member

    TA aluminum rods are made by GRP.
     
  7. Frankie70GS

    Frankie70GS Long Island NY

    Screenshot_20230623_215618_Gallery.jpg Screenshot_20230623_215618_Gallery.jpg Screenshot_20230623_215536_Gallery.jpg Screenshot_20230623_215542_Gallery.jpg I wound up tearing the whole thing down today which honestly Larry "the Wizard " told me to do pretty much from when I bought this car. Anyhow just walked inside. Here's some pictures of my engine. Everything looked pretty average except for #7 rod bearing as shown.
     

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  8. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    My I'm seeing things wrong. Is that a grooved top bearing with no oil hole in it????
     
  9. Stevem

    Stevem Well-Known Member

    Is that the number 3 main Bearing out of the cap and it has the oil hole in it?

    What did number 3 upper Bearing have, a oil hole also?

    The other ware your seeing down into the copper could be from the cast crank being polished the wrong way

    There is a specific way it needs to be spun to get polished right and the old do it at home way of using 400 grit paper and a shoe lace will not work right either
    Polishing in this old fashioned way on a cast crank can produce more Bearing ware then if no polishing was done but you only had scratches on the Bearing surface.
     
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  10. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Those bearings look like crap
     
  11. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    All the bearings are toast, crank needs polishing if not reground.

    These look like Kenne-Bell's infamous "fully grooved" main bearings of eons ago. Neat idea, bad application. Buick's bearing width is already too narrow. Reducing bearing surface area even more on the bottom (main caps), where pressures/forces are highest, is inviting disaster on a performance build.

    Devon
     
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  12. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    OMG Frankie. I'm glad you finally listened to me.:)
     
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  13. Frankie70GS

    Frankie70GS Long Island NY

    Crank is pretty crappy as you can see. Bruno almost had a heart attack when he saw it lol. He had a crank that I'll probably be buying.
    Going to the machine shop today and leave everything to be checked out.
     

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  14. BrianTrick

    BrianTrick Brian Trick

    I run GRP pro-material aluminum rods in my engines and they are street-driven. They are not your typical aluminum rod from yesteryear.
     
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  15. Frankie70GS

    Frankie70GS Long Island NY

    I appreciate it Brian. Everything is at the machine shop. Having everything mic'd. Assuming (praying) all is well and the cylinders only need a honing, I'm putting it all back together with the new TA hydraulic cam and take my chances. Thx.
     
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