Alphanumeric Trim Code on a ‘70?

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  1. Jim Jones

    Jim Jones Wretched Excess

    I have yet to order the Sloan report for the Burgundy Mist car. My friend's vert is a very late car, and as such, the data would come from Wayne Roberts. I don't know if said data has been acquired for the vert.
     
  2. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    Mine is from Wayne & the subject car from Sloan so the "2-0" shows on both.

    Mine also shows as being ordered for stock and no way it was (super oddball car) so again, that could've been a mistake @ the dealer, Zone office (SCO car) or Buick. Also, the painted top didn't show up on Wayne's microfiche (it's on the trim tag & physical evidence). He surmised a clerical error & that Buick never invoiced the dealer for that option. Presumably based on how the paperwork flowed I assume it would've been on the Window Sticker as that was generated pretty early on & before a VIN was assigned.
     
  3. Jim Jones

    Jim Jones Wretched Excess

    I unfortunately don't know what an entry the "2" column on the invoice signifies. No entries are in that column on any invoice documentation I've obtained for my cars. In fact the only insight I can lend to the significance any of the numeric columns (1 through 9) is the "N" entry representing "Special Paint" in the "3" column of the invoice data for my GSX. Assuming the 3 column represents a special exterior (paint) feature, it is quite possible the 2 column may be indicative of an interior feature or anomaly. But I can do little more than speculate at this time.

    I'll update here if anything is revealed in that (or other numerical) column when I get the Sloan data for my Burgundy car. I need to get it ordered, and this question should motivate me to do so.
     
  4. Duane

    Duane Member

    I am not sure what info you guys are referring to regarding the “2-0” but if you can send me your info, or list it here I might be able to help you.
    Duane
     
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2022
  5. Jim Jones

    Jim Jones Wretched Excess

    Duane. The question is in reference to the numerical columns on the invoicing. See the red circle on attached example. Sloan_Partial_2.JPG
     
  6. Duane

    Duane Member

    OK,
    Those are the option codes off the microfilm, which are supposed to also cross reference to the correct (same time period) wholesale car order forms and the assembly manuals.

    I think I checked into this before on another car. If I find anything I will let you know.

    Now, are both of the cars in question 1970’s and are they both from Flint?
    Duane
     
  7. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    Same thing on a Wayne Roberts. What I found interesting, and certainly possibly a coincidence, whas that both the subject car and mine had this "2-0" designation & both had a "Z" on the trim tag w/128 interiors yet black was a recommended color for any exterior. Both also very oddly optioned (lack of) cars.
     

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  8. Duane

    Duane Member

    Dano,
    The Wayne Roberts info is also taken off the microfilm.

    GM used that info to pay their taxes to the US Government. That is why all the options codes are listed, so they could figure out how much each car was invoiced for (base car plus the options) and pay the correct amount in taxes.

    You can thank the IRS for making GM develop these microfilm records in the first place.
    Duane
     
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  9. Jim Jones

    Jim Jones Wretched Excess

    Amazing how much is still uncertain about these cars after all the years of collective knowledge. Seems the more I learn, the more questions I have. Option codes 1 through 9 may remain a mystery due to there being no corresponding codes on the wholesale order form.
     
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  10. Duane

    Duane Member

    I can guarantee you that we will not answer every question about these cars.

    Info from Fisher Body is very scarce as it is, and trying to figure out things from 52 years in the past is just crazy.

    To be honest everybody in the hobby should be very happy about the amount of info we have figured out.

    Now on with the search…….:D
    Duane
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2022
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  11. Duane

    Duane Member

    Ok,
    There is no “2” series Sales Code numbers in the assembly manuals, therefore that series of Sales Codes did not have any parts assigned to them and there would not have been a cost associated to them.

    It was some type of “internal use” number assigned at the factory level.

    I know they picked, by random, certain cars as Quality Control Cars. These particular cars went completely through the assembly process, then were taken to an area were they were scrutinized by a group of QC Engineers.

    Every part was checked, plus panel alignment, paint, etc. Kind of like what we do for Concours judging.

    Anyway this was done to assure the cars were the best they could make them, and if a flaw was found the hope was they could fix the problem on the assembly line so the next cars were built better.

    This type of thing was figured in as a necessary expense for the Factory, but would have been a “no-cost” charge for the vehicle.

    The factory had to designate which cars would receive this treatment. Maybe the “2-series” sales codes were that designation for this year.

    Who knows. This is probably one of those things we may never know.

    Sales Codes 1 thru 9, (with the exception of the 2-series codes talked about above, 5, and 7), not option codes, are in the assembly manuals and are known entities.
    Duane
     
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2022
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  12. Duane

    Duane Member

    Actually the 68 book does list a series 5 Sales Code. It is for a delete spare tire (for export only).

    I would imagine if I started looking thru all the books I could find more.
    Duane
     
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  13. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    Interesting on the IRS angle. I knew Wayne & Sloan were using the same type data. Just figured I'd put the report up showing the "2-0" and to answer your question on the both being '70 & Flint cars. The only reason the painted top is on the report is because I sent Wayne the trim tag. He said it wasn't on the microfiche & chalked it up to a clerical/billing error.
     

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