A good reason not to rivet ball joints

Discussion in 'Chassis restoration' started by copperheadgs1, Dec 28, 2014.

  1. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    The photo speaks for itself. Unloading a spring has never been one of my favorite pastimes but it would be far less fun having to drill and chisel out the ball joints with the control arm on the car like the service manual describes. I was not expecting anything like this but avoided sending off my nice rust free upper control arms to one of those Corvette guys that supplies this service mostly to avoid having them lost in shipping. Looks like it was the right decision. New ball joint time. Looks like bad rubber I guess.
     

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  2. 72newbiebuick

    72newbiebuick Gold Level Contributor

    Doesn't look like an old joint.... and already torn / pulled out rubber boot?!

    Mark
     
  3. BrianinStLouis

    BrianinStLouis Silver Level contributor

    Too much grease?
     
  4. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    The rubber just ripped. Was not too much grease in there either. It happened not long after I finished the resto about two years ago. It had a small tear at first and I mickey mouse'd it with some rubber strips and glue but the grease won out with that and the rip got bigger..
     
  5. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    Dave,

    Back when we were doing resto's, we wanted the correct riveted look, and could buy the rivets, but the tool to do them was crazy expensive, and like you, I did not want to send them away..

    So, we got the die set out, and threaded the rivets.. they worked great, and gave us the correct look, without the hassle.

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    I think I saw someone selling them threaded now.. maybe AMK or the parts place..

    JW
     
  6. alan

    alan High-tech Dinosaur

  7. scubasteve455

    scubasteve455 Well-Known Member

    How many miles are on your car since you finished resto? Do you know how that happened?
     
  8. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Bad rubber I am guessing. May have been a hairline split I missed when new.
     
  9. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Jim, Good idea on threading the rivets but how did you hold them while tightening nut?. I had tried the threaded rivets sold by someone and for some reason I cannot remember I could not get them to work. Maybe I could not tighten them. I may have gotten them from Inline or AMK. I remember being really aggravated with them however. They may have gotten tossed in the trash. I have about 3000 miles on it since restoration was completed but split(small at first) showed up very early on.
     
  10. Rob Ross

    Rob Ross Well-Known Member

    When I restored my GS the same thing happened, both upper ball joint grease boots ripped. I assumed it happened because the suspension over extended because I put the chassis together without the engine in. I drove it this way for years and years. A few years ago I swapped front springs and new ball joints and no issues with the new grease boots. HTH
     
  11. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

  12. dl7265

    dl7265 No car then Mopar

    I had to get the " kit" from the same vendor to get them to work . Then like JW the lock washer provided was enough to get locked down . Not a fun task for sure . Fyi the corvette rivets are a larger diameter.

    DL
     
  13. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Good info guys. May get brave and try the rivets again.
     
  14. DasRottweiler

    DasRottweiler -BuickAddict-

    I am thinking the same thing, over-extension , no engine/ trans weight.
    Hoping I don't have the same issue...
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    Jim/Rott
     
  15. Rob Ross

    Rob Ross Well-Known Member

    Plus I didn't have the rebound bumpers in which would allow it to extend more.
     
  16. Redmanf1

    Redmanf1 Gold Level Contributor

    I used the one from inline.
    Like Jim said to tighten them.

    Nelson
     

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