9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,Wildc

Discussion in 'Parts wanted' started by Tom Miller, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. Tom Miller

    Tom Miller Old car enthusiast

    Please PM me if you have something available, or know someone who has what I need.
    Again,
    3.91 ring and pinion and posi unit for 61,62,63 Full size Buick.

    Thanks,
    Tom:TU:
     
  2. newmexguy

    newmexguy Well-Known Member

    Re: 9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,W

    just out of curiosity, is that a Salisbury or Hotchkiss type of rear end assembly??
    local yard is parting / selling a 65 convertible, has a huge rear under it, with drop out center section - hotchkiss type.
    am going to guess earlier sixties Buick full size - pre 65 used an X frame similar to the 58 - 64 Chevrolet type.
     
  3. Tom Miller

    Tom Miller Old car enthusiast

    Re: 9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,W

    Yes, Hotchkiss front loaded center section.
     
  4. CameoInvicta

    CameoInvicta Well-Known Member

    Re: 9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,W

    Hey Tom, just FYI, the '63 posi unit is different than those used in '61 and '62. The '63 unit is 30 spline, and '61 and '62 unit is 33 spline.

    And good luck finding a gear set, something that low is beyond rare! :beer
     
  5. Tom Miller

    Tom Miller Old car enthusiast

    Re: 9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,W

    If this starts to look like it's going to be a pain in my ass finding parts, the car will get an early Olds/Pontiac rear, and I'll be done messing around.

    If someone has parts, I have money
     
  6. Topcat

    Topcat Got TORQUE?

    Re: 9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,W

    Tom.....there are only 4 or 5 sets of 3.91's that i have ever know of in the last 30 years.
    I have two and a friend has two plus i think i know of one more out there. I will consider selling one of my sets......

    Too bad we can't find the 4.45's that i sold to someone here on V8.......those were the drag racing gears......got them from Kenne-Bell in '75 and TOPCAT was a stop light TERROR in Grand Rapids Michigan the next couple years while i went to Technician's school :grin:

    Peace WildBill
     
  7. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

    Re: 9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,W

    do you think a 62 lesabre 4 door with a 401 and a 2 speed auto would have them?
     
  8. Topcat

    Topcat Got TORQUE?

    Re: 9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,W


    Gary....probably not........but if the car has a big trailer hitch on the back......it's worth a look......those were actually trailer towing gear sets........sometimes a big hitch means big gears.....:Brow:


    Peace WildBill
     
  9. Tom Miller

    Tom Miller Old car enthusiast

    Re: 9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,W

    Thanks guys,
    I knew going into this that it was going to be the road less traveled, and some of the parts were going to be tricky to obtain.
    Heck, the car is going on 52 yrs old, so just the rate of how many have been scrapped over the years limits the ammount of parts left available, the average age of people who own/have owned these cars,gotten out of the old car hobby is of the older crowd.

    Anyways, thanks for the help,I appreciate it.
     
  10. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

  11. CameoInvicta

    CameoInvicta Well-Known Member

    Re: 9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,W

    There won't be any visible stampings on the housing. You'd have to rotate a drum and count the number of rotations of the driveshaft per rotation of the drum. That's also the easiest way to check for a posi. I'd suspect the LeSabre has 3.23's, or maybe 2.78's.
     
  12. buford27

    buford27 '57 Special

    Re: 9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,W

    Stock ratio was 2.78 for 401 with 2 bbl carb and 3.23 for 401 with 4 bbl carb (Power Pack) in the LeSabre for 1962.
     
  13. Tom Miller

    Tom Miller Old car enthusiast

    Re: 9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,W

    Ttt
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$ ???????????:tu:
     
  14. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    Re: 9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,W

    You will also need the "Posi" unit that goes with the 3.42 gears & up. Little easier to find than the 3.90's/91's or the 4.45's. You could make a spacer that's about 1/4" thick. Then you need longer ring gear bolts to convert 3.23 & back posi unit's.
     
  15. Tom Miller

    Tom Miller Old car enthusiast

    Re: 9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,W

    This rear end issue may be the deciding factor of which way I go with this project, or if I even go ANY further with it.
    Either somebody sell me a rear, or come buy the car:shock:
     
  16. 87GN@Tahoe

    87GN@Tahoe Well-Known Member

    Re: 9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,W

    have you looked into having a ford 9" built for the car? A lot more parts for much better prices.

    How much for the car? pictures? Rust?
     
  17. CameoInvicta

    CameoInvicta Well-Known Member

    Re: 9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,W

    They make Ford 9in housing for '59-'64 GM B-Bodies. Although it wouldn't be bolt in, it should be close enough to work with relatively little modification.
     
  18. Bigpig455

    Bigpig455 Fastest of the slow....

    Re: 9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,W


    I'd like to see pictures anyway.. One of my favorite years and bodystyles....
     
  19. 87GN@Tahoe

    87GN@Tahoe Well-Known Member

    Re: 9 3/8" posi and 3.91 gears for 61-62-63 Buick full size Electra,LeSabre,Invicta,W


    x2:TU:
     

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