A nice 71 GS cloned to a GSX sold for 21K tonite at BJ. They didn't offer evidence that it was an original 455 car. Does anyone know the car? Seemed way too cheap!
Last night , lot number 1010, a triple black 1971 GS Stage 1 4-speed convertible sold for 152,900 including the 10% buyers premium. It was a beautifully restored car. I think Rick Hendrick of Hendrick's Racing bought it. Does anyone know its history?
I saw that vert sell and WOW that thing was sweeeeet! and a 4spd to boot :3gears: Yes it was Rick Hendrick that won the bid.
That sell blew me away! Not even a matching car. Who really knows what it started life as. It had some pieces on it that didn't belong on a non GSX car and the bottom was gloss paint too. I was very glad to see it but don't understand that price. Why did the clone GSX go so cheap earlier this week? Glad to see the Buick sell high when so many of the other big muscle cars are lower in price this year. I would hate to be a seller this year. Many cars have hammered at less than cost to build IMO.
When a car hammers for not alot of money and they show the buyer and how he does not look to excited about his new purchase,probably the owner buying it back and paying the fees.Heard about it before.
I looked at that 1971 $21,000 GSX clone today at Barret Jackson car it was rough but worth it. I think the new owner will be happy great foundation.
John, I didn't see any "incorrect" parts on the black convertible. If you're talking about the hood tach, etc, the '71's could be ordered with wings and tachs, but the '70's could not. I have my doubts about whether it was a real or made up car, as the Speed guys were absolutely clueless about GS's. The buyer may be in for a surprise if or when he starts to run the numbers. The seller seems to know how to get big bucks for his Buicks. If it is a "real" car, then I'd say it was well sold and well bought. Dan
The car was incorrect. It had bucket seats. I think buckets were not available on '71 or '72 GS convertibles.
I think you are correct about the buckets. It's my understanding that any 71 or 72 GS convertible that has buckets from the factory will have SCO on the trim tag. I also agree that the speed guys, as knowledgable as they are, are clueless about GS's. Allen
This comment is regarding the triple black '71 GS 455 (Stage 1?) 4spd Conv at B-J (not the '71 GSX clone): (emphasis added - Ken) (emphasis added - Ken) This is a Clinton-esque debate. It depends what the word is 'is'. Is a car 'correct' or 'incorrect' if it has factory options added later? What weight do we give to certain options? I think most of us would agree that a reproduction hood tach - even if the car was not built with it - is not a big deal. But, is adding a lot of small options (how many options can you add before the car is not 'original') the same as "upgrading" to a more exclusive drivetrain ... vis a vis the Stage 1 engine and the manual transmission. I also think that most of us would agree that changing the drive train in this manner is not 'correct' and destroys originality. What seems to bug me about this car is really two-fold and I place the problem squarely on the shoulders of the Seller. First, the ad copy is written (IMHO) to come as close to saying this car is original as equipped for sale without actually making that claim. I mean, if you had this car and it was bona fide and completely 'correct', wouldn't you simply STATE EXACTLY THAT and shout it from the mountain top?! Pretty simple, "It's completely authentic, original and real as built by Buick in 1971" - simple, to the point and no ambiguities. So, what is NOT said may be as important than what IS stated. Second, the most obvious issue becomes the "gateway" to other suspicions about the car ... the bucket seats in a '71 Conv. with no SCO code in the data plate and the codes that are shown, 168, etc., something is amiss here. The buckets vs. the data plate and the ad copy wording only fuel other speculation. And, the six-figure selling price just seems unjustified ... IF there is any authenticity or originality issues with the drivetrain. I sincerely hope that all turns out well for Mr. Hendrick, but if he was relying on the Seller's comments about being a 1 of 9 car, etc., and that is not the case ... then, well, this will be a shame. Now, I think, we are all assuming that the Seller is (or should be) completely in the 'know' about this car, its history and resto process. If I was Mr. Hendrick ... I'd be tracking down the prior owner or two before the Seller to have a chat. I would be curious to see what the Barrett-Jackson warranty is or any "boiler plate" disclaimer & contract language for such an authenticity issue. I would feel a lot more comfortable if I knew whether this car has a big block steering shaft rag joint ... not conclusive, but so often over-looked, or any evidence of re-stamping on the distributor, carb, block or transmission. Ken
My daughter and I saw the GSX at BJ on thursday before it sold...we looked at it and it was a very nice car ... I did not pay attention to the options only that it was stated as a gs455 car.... so I figured it was cloned to a gsx.... I think the buyer did well to get 21k ( I was wondering what it would sell for)...especially with the paint chips around the chrome on the hood..... I was actually surprised to see that. I thought all these cars would be flawless ???? I still liked the car .
Thanks for the education Dan. I didn't know you could order the tach and wings from the factory after 1970. I thought it had to be a GSX or dealer installed. Anyway they never mentioned paperwork to back up anything on that car. For that money I hope he had some.
In a different thread, Duane made some comments about factory installed hood tachs and spoilers (front & rear) stating that they were only installed at Flint ... and there were very, very few according to the Daily Car Reports for Buick production. Only Flint built 71-72 GS's could have received a hood tack, front spoiler or rear spoiler, so if your car came from any other plant these options were not available. Duane Here's the post: http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=168496 Ken
I was watching when both cars sold...nice cars. I know 2 new owners who are happy right about now. I doubt anyone could have cloned a GSX and had it look that nice for the money it sold for. I would have took a chance on it at that price. Their were alot of nice "tribute" cars that sold for under what the build price would have been....sometimes way under. But i'm more into survivor/driver cars and not museum quality cars anyway.
B-J seems to be "fantasy land" when it comes to Buicks, and it is disappointing. The Speed Channel guys have no idea what to say about them, and the average bidder has no idea what he's bididng on. I applaud that Rick Hendrick wanted a Buick, but didn't get any indication that what he was bidding on was a "real" car. Remember the '66 4-speed vert GS that sold last year for 76K? I still remember looking at just the engine in a quick pan shot, and seeing all kinds of stuff wrong with it. It sold for more than a correct '69 375 horse 396 4 spd Chevelle convertible. Two bidders at the right place and time, can make history. It's shameful that there are still no commentators who can talk about Gran Sports on national TV with some authority. When hundreds of thousands are being tossed around, you'd think that someone would be able to at least talk about the car with some authority. If someone offered me 139k for my correct original unrestored Stage1 convertible(that some of you saw at the OK club tent last year, and even fewer who saw the smokey burnout near the Motion GSX) I'd tell them no thanks. I'd think they were nuts, but still wouldn't sell it. At least I'd explain what they needed to check out, to educate them. B-J doesn't seem to even have that. I feel sorry for the buyer. He should join this site....Dan
I noted the dame thing abou the coverage. Steve M. is great when it comes to Chevy and Mopar but looses his way when the Pontiac, Olds and Buicks come across the stage. He even knows a fair bit about Ford stuff. Having been th B-J a few times and seeing what happens in the tent its almost like being at a Super Bowl as compared to a typical College or Pro game. Anyway, I'm honored to have Mr. Henderick as a fellow Stage 1 Convetible owner. I also see a feelow member is selling his car on ebay. I hate to see it sold but I hope that the winning bidder truely appreciates what they are getting. I too wouldn't think of selling for the $139k number, but it does give an indication ast to the current market. I haven't looked at the Mecum auction results today to find the price for the 72 that was there.
http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?LOT_ID=FL0109-77004&entryRow=87 Is this the 72 you are talking about they went to commercial right when it came on the block and there web site has no info. figures!
