What the hell is up with the home made crossmember? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Buic...iewItem&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2308ed4b22
Says it has manifolds and there are headers on the car from underneath.....Emblems look too far forward especially for original panels. Oh yeah, that crossmember is definitely "custom":TU:
I know that bamboo cream appears to be a love it or hate it color, but if the production figures I saw a while back on this Board were accurate for 1970 GS production, bamboo cream was one of the more popular colors. I know I go back and forth with this color. It always seems to look better on someone else's car.
The seller informed that the crossmember is original.:grin: I also asked him how he managed to get both original exhaust manifolds and headers on the same motor.
And what about the disc brake pedal pad ... and drum brakes? And, "original sheet metal" with emblems that are off position?
With bids at that level, and 8 days to go, somebody is going to spend a bunch of money on that car. Probably a fun car to drive, but too many things off on this ad.
Figured out the crossmember and header issues. The car on the lift is not the '70 GS. Check out the rocker molding in the pic. Also, the die pattern on the floor pan isn't correct for a Skylark/GS.
Not really.. Column shift and console shift have the same speedo Even on a console shift that needle will move when selecting gears. The columns are exactly the same except for the shifter inside. The console is hooked to the transmission, which also has linkage to the colum outside by the firewall, which moves the collar inside just like a column shift. This collar, moves the needle. It was done this way so the ignition could lock the collar which would lock the linkage, which would lock the console shifter from moving when there were no keys
I guess all the ones I have seen only have the shift indicator when they are column shifted and don't have the indicator when it is floor shifted. I have never seen one until now that has both indicators. Seems kind of odd, but...
Yeah I thought it was odd too... and never got the point because the PRNDL12 is on the floor shift.. Until someone explained that in 69 or 70 there was a govt mandate to have the shifter lock when there were no keys in the ignition. In order to do that, the same column shift linkage was added to the floor shift cars. This way the collar inside on the column would lock without the key turned and thus prevent an accidental shift out of park by a kid or would be thief. In addition to moving the collar to lock the shift linkage, it also moves the neutral starting switch on the column and reverse lights.
I still don't think it is correct. Why would some cars come without the indicators? I have had several 72 Cutlass's with the console and floor shift and none of them had the indicator on the dash. They weren't sticks either. I have seen plenty of Buicks without the indicator as well. The lockout works no matter what gauge you have in there.
You're right, I dont think Cutlass' had the need for this. But here's a better explanation I found in another posts and... and... Up to 69 I think, the neutral starting switch was in the console, and a wire harness extended to it, but once it a locking column was required, it got moved back to the column as it could work off the linkage that locked w/o keys
First, the speedometer pod on the dash with the gear readout (P-R-N-D-L2-L1) is illuminated, the floor shift readout in the console (plate) is not. I thought this was the reason for the apparent "redundancy". Also, the shifter in these consoles has a mounting provision for the neutral safety switch, but I remember being told previously by a couple Board members with authority in this area that the factory changed over mid-year ('70, I believe) from the console mounted neutral safety switch to the column mounted switch position (even with the full-length floor shift console option) because the floor shifter is linked to to the column therefore moving the column internals as gears are changed. If that is the case, the wiring locations/harnesses should be different (length?) or just routed differently. It has been a few years, but as I recall, all the other GM cars I have owned with floor shifting floor consoles were illuminated, save for my GS.
One other point is that with the linkage working properly, you cannot remove the key from the ignition unless the car is in park. Without it, the steering wheel could lock when your doing 70 on the highway. All automatic speedo's in 70-72 Buicks, regardless if they were column or floor shift, had the gear selector on the speedo.
