Ah, ok, like some of these? http://www.dbtires.com/pricelist_17_intro.htm I guess I'm too young to have seen too many in person enough to remember them. :spank:
Yeah... that was when I first got the '70 back in '92. My buddy Steve sure liked the smoke... he's the one jumping in the streets!
Here are some ideas for you for EFI and easially reaching your 500hp goal. :Brow: http://home.att.net/~basic-4/BuickEFI/BuickEFI.html http://www.turbocamaroproject.com/TT430/TT430.html I've decided against the giant snake like throttle body elbow, but I think I'll keep the throttle body and fab my own aluminum elbow simular to the ones on www.intakeelbows.com
Yeah, like that. I've seen many on concourse cars... in fact, Goodyear had blue and gold lines, too - but I just think the redlines with the right wheels and color scheme will be killer. The rendering will be done soon, so hopefully you'll get the picture a little better.
I'm hoping to make 500 with motor, and then we'd add a turbo and do 750 or so! As for the EFI, I know what I want to do, it's just going to take a little time. We'll get into that more when we start the motor build. Who's turbo project is that?
Too bad you couldn't retro fit a '66/'67 electric headlight retraction system into your car.......:idea2: It would likely be impossible to make it fit though.
Mine. :3gears: I've been slowly collecting parts for the EFI conversion for a while and then a deal came up for two turbos and two wastegates so I went ahead and got them. They will probably first go onto a 430 I have installed in a 3rd gen camaro. A TT 430 in a ~3000lb car should be pretty fun. I don't know if I'd want to put that much power in the heavy Riv. Stopping might become scary. But if your project '68 really turns out to handle and brake like a dream I may just change my mind. :grin: My base site www.turbocamaroproject.com is geared towards my '94 V6 camaro that I turbocharged and then added a Megasquirt EFI controller since these cars don't have any software tuning options. I then published all my wiring diagrams for people to do the same thing.
Cool stuff! I'm thinking about adapting a GM Gen III system to the Buick and using LS1 Edit to tune. We could use a factory ECM, harness, sensors... just change the firing order and up the injector size. The cool thing is that it could all be done with GM / junkyard parts.
So would you be figuring out a way to incorporate a cam position sensor, and higher resolution crank sensor? I'm not too samilure with what all the LS1 does for position sensing but since it's seqential fuel injection as well as coil-near-plug I would imagine it's got some pretty high resolution stuff on it. Or with LS1 Edit is there a way to turn that off and just run batch fire and distributor? That's pretty much all I'm going to do with the Megasquirt. I got the $140 unassembled MS-I/v2.2 kit, assembled it, and will be running batch fire fuel injection, electronic distributor spark advance(with a points distributor that I stuck a magnetic pick-up in and will feed to a HEI-7/8 pin module, which megasquirt can control), as well as things like electric cooling fan on/off(provided I upgrade to electric cooling fans), wideband O2 sensor with full time a/r ratio targeting, etc. And to tune the Megasquirt you just need a computer running the free downloadable tuning software. There wouldn't be much difference in the cost of the hardware, but as far as buying even a salvage yard Gen III PCM and then LS1 Edit, I would think it could get a little expensive. Unless you plan on using all the cool things like sequential fuel and coil-on/near-plug. I can't wait! :beer
We would add a cam position sensor to a locked-out MSD distributor body, then use the GM box to run the coil-near-plug and SEFI system. We'll have to add a crank position sensor as well as the others. There is going to be a decent amount of work and questions to answer, but we think we can make it happen. As for the cost, you can get a GM truck box for under $100 from a salvage yard - we use Bill Smith Auto Parts for this kind of stuff.
Sweet! Individual cylinder control on a buick motor is going to be awesome. You guys do things right. :eek2: I'll stop asking questions and let you guys get to work. :bglasses: Well...maybe one more. Your video mentioned overdrive trans? Are we talking a 4L60E/4L80E controlled by that same Gen III PCM?
I deally, yes, we'll use the GM PCM for the trans... either a 4L80E or 4L65E connected to the block with a TCI trans adapter. Then we could use a Twist Machine Shrifter paddle shifter to make it fun. Thanks for the compliments!
Nice job, KO. Looking forward to more! Are you sure about those lomer control arms being the same as A-bodies? I thought the same thing when I looked at them but never got a chance to compare them.
How would you change the firing order? Won't that require a custom-ground cam? What would the new firing order be?
They're the same. At least functionally. The A body pieces have holes on the sides for the sway bar mounts, and it looks like our Riv parts did not have those, but dimensionally they're interchangable.
The easiest way would be to switch the injector connectors to reorder the injectors, and wire the plugs accordingly. Gen III motors use 1-8-7-2-6-5-4-3, we'd make it run on the Buick order of 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2. You can change the firing order in the ECM on Ford systems... it's how they use the same EEC box to run different motors with different cylinder counts and firing orders... we'll see if that's possible with the GM stuff. We would have to see if this scheme would jive with the cam position sensor, but a tuner buddy of mine thinks it would work. Figuring it out would be part of our feature on this. If it didn't work, than a custom cam would be in order, but that would be the last resort. It will be a journey, that's for sure!
I was thinking the same thing. I'll never understand why they went to the vacuum operated system. Quiet sure, but not as reliable in my mind. That really surprises me too!
I understand the skepticism on the lowers, but unless I'm missing something, they're interchangeable. Maybe we'll install some later this week as a total confirmation, but I'm sure they work.
