67 Riviera Led Tail light and CCFL Angel light mod progress and comparison .

Discussion in 'Classic Buicks' started by funkyman, Mar 5, 2011.

  1. funkyman

    funkyman Well-Known Member

    Here is a 19 Red LED installed on my Riviera rear tail lights.I left a couple of stock ones with photos for you to see the difference.I will post finished photos soon,once i install the voltage resistor so that the flasher works.The Led`s give a dot appearance and use barely any power.
    Upcoming mods are real CCFL angel eye super mod that envolves oven baking,prying open halo HID lights and fabricating the intenal parts so that it accomodates CCFL Angel rings.Nobody sells such a kit anywhere,but guess what ,though not yet finished,see what can be achieived and see a remarkable difference in brightness it has brought.I have insalled only one as a test.The photos unfortunately aren`t very good and don`t do any justice to the real appearnace with the naked eye.Anyway this is the best i could do for now,i will post day time photos later.The trun signal is also a blue LED.

    Let me know if you like it and ofcourse your opinion,i I chose blue,for two reasons,everybody has white ,secondly the light theme of the car will be blue meaning the console and dash lights will eventually be blue as in VW Blue except for the cabin lights,they will be bright white LED`s for functionality.The gages will eventually be modified customized from factory white on black to black numbers on a white backround,thus increasing visibility and appeal.They will receive stock design dials and black numbers with blue led dash lighting.Basically we are going to have a stock 67 Riviera with a white dash/face and blue lighting a 2011 version dash:)Tell me what you think.
     

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  2. bhambulldog

    bhambulldog 1955 76-RoadmasterRiviera

    Very cool! I would comment that, here in Alabama; non emergency vehicles are prohibited from having red and blue lights facing the front.
    But, it's nice work you've done. I'm interested in seeing more, of what you have done, to get that look.
    :TU:
     
  3. r0ckstarr

    r0ckstarr Well-Known Member

    Kind of ricer-ish is my opinion. But, it's your car, do what you want.

    Blue or red in your turn signals is an instant traffic ticket here. Be careful.

    I don't see the reasoning behind having the taillights light up as small individual dots when the original bulbs illuminated the whole lens. When I step on the brake pedal, I want that person behind me to see it.

    Would it be possible to run a whole strip of LED lights across the inside of the lens so that the whole assembly would light up similar to how it does with the original bulbs?

    I respect the amount of work and effort put into doing something like this, I just don't see the point in it all, especially the whole interior guage conversion. It reminds me of something you'd find in a Honda.

    With everything I have said, I too would be curious to see how everything was done.
     
  4. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    X2. Congrats for your efforts and thanks for letting us see how things look.

    The problem with LED bulb replacements is always going to be the inevitable "hot spot" since the lenses were never designed to diffuse the directional light they emit. The only way around it is to create an bigger array of closely spaced diodes that cover the entire backside of the lens lens, or change the diffusion of the lens somehow.

    An alternative to LED that may help avoid the taillight "hot spots" is to use multiple rows of red CCFLs (Cold Cathode Fluorescent Lamps), the same lamps that some of the headlight halos use. It just means there's no more plug & play like the LED bulb replacements offer; you'd have a lot more fabricating to do.

    In the end I think the modern lighting is a novel approach, but has to be conservatively and tastefully done when you're trying to marry the new high tech look with the forty+ year old styling. The challenge is to make it appear like something Buick Engineering would have done rather than having it look like mail order add-ons.

    Devon
     
  5. FoxProGT

    FoxProGT Well-Known Member

    Good post...

    Iv been wanting to see some compare pixs of leds and stock bulbs. iv even been looking at them halos on ebay for awhile. cant deside f i want them. they look so sweet X)

    Thanks for posting :D
     
  6. funkyman

    funkyman Well-Known Member

    Well to be honest with you,the rear leds at are actually brighter than you think, and the dot,well large dots in this case seem to be the in-look, these days.I can't wait to finish the angel eyes, because I believe that,it is one of the most appearance enhancing mods for the sixties muscle cars.My blue turn signal is also a 19 led and experimental at this point in in time.My initial idea was to incorporate an Audi style strip hi power led inside the actual lense housing, along two outer side and lower edges, which in my opinion would look stock , functional and sexy.However it involves immense work.I had to do alot of electrical work and modification already just to get the hallows working.I also installed a hidden auxilliary switch inside the car,so that I can manually open or lower the retractible head lights, which you cant do with the factory light switch without pulling it out a second nothch with ignition key on.Anyway, i`ll keep you posted,the lisence plate light is a 13 smd led and the inside console light is also a 13smd led white.
    The tail lights are regular 19 leds,i have ordered 6x6 red smd leds to see how they will look.If anyone is interested in the 6x19 leds ,ill be glad to sell them at a bargain.The LEd`s are red and they must be the same color as the lense housing.
     
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2011
  7. funkyman

    funkyman Well-Known Member

    Guess what i found out about the Florida Laws:),but i only use my car maybe once a week and i`m willing to take the risk.

    Florida Motorists Laws on LED Light Colors
    By Ron White, eHow Contributor updated: August 01, 2010


    Most colored headlights are illegal in Florida.
    LED lights are a popular addition to cars, trucks and motorcycles in Florida. These lights give vehicles a stylish look at nighttime. They come in many colors to allow vehicle owners to match lights to their vehicles. In Florida, though, laws limit the colors of lights that can be used on vehicles. Some lights are designated for certain types of service vehicles, and other light colors are banned due to traffic safety concerns. Failure to follow these laws can result in fines for drivers.

    Red and Blue Lights
    For decades, red and blue lights have indicated to drivers that an emergency vehicle is on the road. The lights are used on ambulances, fire trucks and police cars, and drivers are supposed to take action when they see these light colors. Because these light colors are signals to drivers, Florida law bans their use in certain instances. Red lights are not allowed to be visible from the front on cars, trucks and motorcycles driven on a highway in the state unless they are fire department or police vehicles, and blue lights are not allowed at all on any vehicles except for police cars. Drivers who use these colors of lights can be fined.

    Headlight Laws
    LED headlights have become quite popular as alternatives to traditional halogen head lamps. All headlights, though, are required to be clear, lightly frosted white or blue bulbs. Other colors of bulbs are illegal for use as headlights in Florida. In fact, what matters more than the color of the bulb is the color of the light. According to Florida Statute 316.220, headlights must show a white light. Florida state law also requires the headlights to light the roadway for 450 feet from the vehicle. Drivers who use colored headlamps that do not emit white light can be ticketed for failing to comply with state vehicle laws. The violation is considered a nonmoving infraction.

    Tail Lights and Turn Signals
    In Florida, tail lights are required to be red or amber in color. These rules are part of Florida Statute 316.221. Although it is legal in Florida to use red LED lights for tail lights, the lights must be visible from 1,000 feet away to comply with the statute. Red LED lights that do not meet the distance requirement are deemed illegal for use on public roads and can result in a nonmoving violation. In addition to the tail light law, the same statute requires all vehicles to have a white license plate light. The law specifically says the light must be white. The light also must be visible from 50 feet away. White LED lights are legal based on the law. Florida Statute 316.234 requires front turn signal lights to be white or amber and rear turn signal lights to be red or amber. The lights must be visible from 500 feet away in normal sunlight.



    Read more: Florida Motorists Laws on LED Light Colors | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_6803808_florida-laws-led-light-colors.html#ixzz1FzM6z2Hu
     
  8. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    I hear you, I flagrantly disobey my state laws too. Can't be a single good reason for any of them to be in place anyway.

    :Dou:

    Devon
     
  9. r0ckstarr

    r0ckstarr Well-Known Member

    Let's hope that is during the daytime hours so the cops don't see your lights.
     
  10. scott kerns

    scott kerns Silver Level contributor

    Hey Funkyman where in Florida are you located?

    Scott
     
  11. funkyman

    funkyman Well-Known Member

    I`m in South Flroida Fort Lauderdale.Since these CCFL Angel eyes are for day time running, i guess they will see them.I have decided to do away with the blue turn signals even though it looks really cool.Blue light brings warmth and ambiance to the human eye,it really does look beautiful at night but as you guys know.the laws don`t like nice:).I have actually done alot of restoration with my Buick ,i will post photos very soon.A complete newly painted engine bay area,brand new free flow exhaust system etc.
     
  12. funkyman

    funkyman Well-Known Member

    OK here is a teaser video of the to right side CCFL angel eyes completed and the left side left with the originally purchased Halos that you can`t even see at all during day light or even around 6pm in the afternoon.I should be finished with the other two next week.It really does look awsome day or night.It basically looks as bright as the 2011 BMW white angel eyes except for the fact that these are blue CCFL

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTAsQ97BtXA
     
    Last edited: Mar 10, 2011
  13. 70ConvBeast

    70ConvBeast Well-Known Member

  14. funkyman

    funkyman Well-Known Member

    Yes they are very nice but very expensive i might go on a custom strip led project for the Tail light housing that would be awsome,much better than these panels.

    By the way i updated the link so it works.When i complete the CCFL angel eyes, i might consider selling it for the 4 of them.They should fit any muscle car that accomodates 5.3/4 beams

    .Since it is a one off head light system,it should be quite unique and eye catching.It took countless hours to make them.
     
  15. Magnum357

    Magnum357 Well-Known Member

    Hey Funkyman, did you start on the custom strip led project, if so please share with the rest of us:pray: , I'm very curious how you will separate the 3 different functions (normal light, turn/brake), I'm thinking about the same thing for my Wildcat but can't figure out how to do, and I have to comply with Danish law:rant: (minor detail LOL)
     

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