4spd Brake Pedal

Discussion in 'U-shift em' started by TXGS, Mar 9, 2006.

  1. TXGS

    TXGS Paint by numbers 70 GS 455 4spd

    Can some post a pic or confirm that the 4spd brake pedal with power disk brakes has a metal ring that says Disk Brakes or Power Disk brakes on it like the automatic style brake pedal. Is this correct.

    Thanks :beer
     
  2. bad news

    bad news old B gaser

    Phil i dont know the answer but saw it was you thought id tell you i took a pass on that car//////long story but the short of it is to //i thought it was to much money for the car as it stood BUTit was what i want so illkeep looking and thanks again pete
     
  3. TXGS

    TXGS Paint by numbers 70 GS 455 4spd

    No problem Pete,

    With the repair work, shipping, and car itself I can understand your thoughts

    Good luck on your search. :beer
     
  4. Rich Johns

    Rich Johns Platinum Level Contributor

    Phil
    Here is a pic of the inside of my 70 GS 455 4 speed car.
    This car has factory Disc brakes and has the very rare Stainless steel Disc brake logo that would appear on auto Disc brake pedal.
    This is a rare site to see on a 4 speed brake pedal
    Pic attached
     

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  5. TXGS

    TXGS Paint by numbers 70 GS 455 4spd

    Rich thats what I was looking for. I bought a 70 GS 455 4spd yesterday and it has power disk brakes and did not have the pedal cover on it. Someone said they had the stainless steel disk on them thanks for confirming this for me. :beer
     
  6. Rich Johns

    Rich Johns Platinum Level Contributor

    Phil
    Your welcome.
    PM me or post here the color combo an factory options on your GS 455 4 speed car
    Thanks Rich
     
  7. TXGS

    TXGS Paint by numbers 70 GS 455 4spd

    Rich I had the Car verified by sloan before I purchased it.

    Info:

    70 GS 455 4spd
    Kansas Built Car 11/69 (early production)
    Gulf Stream Blue - Exterior
    Black Bucket - Interior
    Black Vinyl Top
    Instrument Gauges and Tachometer
    AC
    Power Disk Brakes
    Bucket seat and Console
    AM Radio with rear speaker
    performance axle with posi
    remote mirror
    power steering
    Over sized whitewalls H78-14
    Softray tinted glass
    Door Guards
    Convience group (trunk light and maplight mirror)
    Chrome plated wheels
    Upper peak moldings

    Thats about it. What you think?
     
  8. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

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    dude, wheres your car's roof?
     
  9. Rich Johns

    Rich Johns Platinum Level Contributor

    Joe
    The roof is above pic does not show it.
    Phil nicely optioned GS
    My car is what I refer to as the Anti-Buick

    Sloan documented GS 455 4 speed
    Solid silver ( no vinyl top and no AC)
    121 Base Blue Bench seat interior ( like Lassesters Old Blue)
    P disc brakes
    PS
    M21 4 speed
    3:42 axle
    Remote Mirror,Upper Peak moldings,AM radio
    In dash Tach and Guages
    WD1 15x7 plain steel wheels with dogdish hubcap with G60-15 RWL Goodyear polyglas tires
    She's all business ,ordered like a chevy
     
  10. 2manybuicks

    2manybuicks Founders Club Member

    Anyone know if a 1969 GS would have come with the disc brake emblem on a 4-speed setup?

    -- Steve
     
  11. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    oh my lord, obvious now. for some reason I didn't see the pillar. :Dou:
     
  12. 54Rich

    54Rich Silver Level contributor

    I had to run out and look. Mine does not have it, nor does it look like it was ever there. I'm almost certain that it's the orginal pedal. Maybe someone can prove otherwise, I'd like to have one.

    Rich
     
  13. MikeM

    MikeM Mississippi Buicks

    Steve, my 68GS has it. So if they still had it in 70 it's a pretty good bet that the 69s do too. There's only 17K original miles on this car so I'm betting that it is correct.
     

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  14. Rich Johns

    Rich Johns Platinum Level Contributor

    Rich
    Your car would have to be a factory equipped P Disc Brake car to have this pedal trim.
    P drum or manual brakes would have plain black pedal pad only
     
  15. TXGS

    TXGS Paint by numbers 70 GS 455 4spd

    Sounds like A nice car Rich. Mine is in need of everything but for a 70 GS 455 4spd I am willing to do the work needed. :3gears:
     
  16. Rich Johns

    Rich Johns Platinum Level Contributor

    Phil
    Those are great pics on your website.
    Thank you for saving that car, it is soooo worth it!
    What yard is that and where was it found..story about the deal?
    Rich
     
  17. 54Rich

    54Rich Silver Level contributor

    It is a factory P Disc, 4 speed Car. So now I'm confused. I can tell you that I'm the second owner, the first owner ran it into the ground and let it sit. :Do No:

    Rich
     
  18. TXGS

    TXGS Paint by numbers 70 GS 455 4spd

    Basic Story of the salvage yard, It is one of 2 possibly 3 that the same guys owns. the newest cars on the premises are mid 70's and all these car were hauled in in the early eighties late 70's and before. The guys dad passed away and the son and the mom took over the business. Most of the stuff is pretty rough to include the GS I bought but I have a fetish for saving a salvage yard car. FYI it has a clear title also. :beer

    They take people out to their yards once in the summer and once in the fall thats it. every 6 months. or he will go out on tuesdays if he has enough parts to pull.

    Salvage yard is near Austin and is in a very rural setting.
     
  19. 54Rich

    54Rich Silver Level contributor

    If some one can decode these part numbers, they are the only ones listed for 69. Page 138 of the assyembly manual. 1384111 - Cover (Disc Brakes) This looks to be for the automatic. Then it lists 1363611 and 3858198 - Opt - Manual Trans. Then 1363630 and 3858199 - Opt - Auto Trans. Quite a few different choices, looks like two different ones for the manual. Looks like my car got the wrong cover. Mine was built in July of 69, maybe they ran out.


    Rich
     
  20. WE1

    WE1 Well-Known Member

    Rich:

    In looking through a 1975 dated parts book the only number that came up as still being used and not superceded was the 3858199. This pad is for an auto trans pedal. It fits: 64-67 ST 300 (Super Turbine) Special-Skylark-GS, 67 Sportwagons TH 400, 68-72 All A (A.T. Drum brakes), 68-72 All A (Disc brakes). So you can see somethings amiss here. As the disc brake cars had the oval stainless disc, but it shows the drum and disc as the same. Its one of those discontinued parts things, the other one fits both so thats what we'll list and go with for both applications. I need to go dig out one of my other older parts books in the garage and start looking some more. I have a Parts History Price Book also but all that will show is when the part was discontinued or what it superceded to and the prices.
    This particular book shows the "plates" (which is what they called the stainless trim on the pedals) as being available only on the full size cars. This was the trim that ran around the perimeter of the pedal, in addition to the center oval disc. If I remember it also had a single stainless piece running through the center of the oval from one side to the other. I don't remember ever seeing that trim plate (besides the center oval disc) on an A body Buick. And I don't know if in fact they came that way, at least from 70 and on. Who knows what was done during the history of the car or even on the assembly line. Sometimes going through the parts books doesn't necessarily make it set it stone or the way it was. Mikes 68 400 with that low milage sure would indicate they were available at least up til that year...???? I have a manual trans disc brake pedal setup out of a Chevelle with that trim on it. Its one of those clear as mud things when it comes to these cars.
     

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