455 into 75-79 skylark

Discussion in 'Wet behind the ears??' started by buickjim, Nov 9, 2002.

  1. cacmanjr

    cacmanjr Well-Known Member

    GREAT!

    Good to hear, Jim. Gonna collect a few more parts then get mine to the chassis shop and get started. Let me know how it is going.
     
  2. buickjim

    buickjim Active Member

    chassis ?

    Carl,
    chassis shop ? what are you having done ?
    I'm thinking about doing the 8 pt cage from s and w and tying the subs together as my start.

    after seeing how much torque one of jw's stage 1 motors put out, it would be a real frame (no frame=body) twister. and I'd like my doors to close with out gaps. :)

    and also seeing how most of the power happens under 6k rpm,,,,well, gee, that's a good thing for a street motor.

    maybe i'll get my web site up before this all happens and can post my pics and progress there...

    let us know how your doin' too...

    Jim:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
     
  3. cacmanjr

    cacmanjr Well-Known Member

    Hi Jim. The chassis shop will be installing the 10 or 12 point cage (haven't really decided yet) and the frame connectors and rear end assembly. I have a moser 12 bolt that has to be converted to leaf springs to use under the 76. I'm looking to get the car as stiff as possible because that will add up to consistency. What are you planning for a traction device? I'm thinking CalTrac bars.
    I will continue to post here as the work gets done!
     
  4. cacmanjr

    cacmanjr Well-Known Member

    OK bought a 76 455 to put in the 66 today so I can swap the motor out of the 66 into the 76. Next purchases are roll cage and caltracs!
     
  5. buickjim

    buickjim Active Member

    motor

    NICE,
    did you get the entire car ? I missed one 3 wks ago that woudl have been the whole thing...pretty cheap..so I should have jumped on it, but I was caught short after buying a bunch of parts already that week.

    are you going to take this new motor apart first ?

    Jim
     
  6. 70 gsconvt

    70 gsconvt Silver Level contributor

    Would you guys stop posting stuff on this thread!!!!! I keep getting an itch to build one of these and it's driving me crazy.

    I used to have a 75 Olds Omega with a Buick 350 from the factory. Pretty much the same car. Car ran like a raped ape. I loved it.
     
  7. cacmanjr

    cacmanjr Well-Known Member

    No Jim, I didn't get the whole car. Just the motor. The 76 motor is going into the 66 car. It will just be cleaned up and have a new oil pump, timing chain and maybe bearings. The motor in the 66 is an AMP built street motor. That will be going into the 76 car. Frame connectors and drive shaft safety loop came today. Saving for the caltracs and roll cage. Anybody want to buy an olds 455??????
    Phillip, gonna keep on posting til you get bitten by the bug!!
     
  8. 70 gsconvt

    70 gsconvt Silver Level contributor

    Thanks, my wife will be thrilled!!!!!
     
  9. buickjim

    buickjim Active Member

    aaahhhh

    Carl,
    thats going to be a nice stiff ride when you get done...

    with all my ongoing projects, i don't expect my lark to get on the strip this year...but i do hope to have the drive train and cage back together enough to at least test it out my late summer...

    wow, all the stuff ive started =not good...need to finish some projects,

    cal tracs are highly reguarded as quite the way to go.
     
  10. cacmanjr

    cacmanjr Well-Known Member

    Hopefully it will be stiff enough to have repeatability. Seems to be the key to bracket racing. Good luck on getting your projects finished. I have my share of left overs to finish also, but making the race car is what allows the other car to become the "cruiser".
    EVERYBODY says that Caltracs are the thing for a leaf spring car. There are a couple of Appolos out there running 10's on 10 inch tires with stock rear suspension and Caltracs.

    Phillip. This is the secret..............Buy the parts and hide them in the house. Then when she catches you pulling them out, swear that you showed them to her months ago when you got them. Works every time. You should see all the stuff under the futon in the den!!
     
  11. 70 gsconvt

    70 gsconvt Silver Level contributor

    My wife works for the Treasury Dept. and has a mind like a steel trap......one that I keep getting caught in. I don't think she'll fall for the old "No honey, I've that for years. You remember when we got married and I moved all this stuff from my parents...."
     
  12. buickjim

    buickjim Active Member

    what motor

    Carl,
    what sort of horse is pulling those apollo's into the 10's ? Ive heard some 'lark's will run 10's them with only the 350, and that gives me hope for my 73...but I really want the bbb fun for the 78..

    I think the caltracs will be in my future plans too


    hey Phillip, there's room for more 'crazies' in this area...join in...tell the wife its cheaper than a mid life crisis , he he... at least that one worked for me... :)

    Jim
     
  13. TXGS

    TXGS Paint by numbers 70 GS 455 4spd

    Bunch of crazy people!
     
  14. cacmanjr

    cacmanjr Well-Known Member

    "Well I could be down at the bar chasing women"

    "Well go ahead If that is what you want to do"

    Phillip, My mind is like a steel trap also............all bent and rusty!
    You just gotta be more convincing about already having the parts!

    Jim, I used to like smaller, higher reving motors but found out that there just ain't no substitute for cubic inches!

    No idea what kind of HP pulls the Appolos into the 10s'. I have never seen a 350 (that I know of) run 10s'.

    Caltracs are THE way to go.
     
  15. buickjim

    buickjim Active Member

    trade off

    Carl,
    just think of the fuel economy we'll be saving by not having to run those little high rpm blocks so fast ( ha ha)....no substitute for torque to get things moving , eh ?

    cars, more fun than a mid life crisis... :)
     
  16. 70 gsconvt

    70 gsconvt Silver Level contributor

    I ran one of these cars through my Desktop Dyno 2000. A 3400 lb. car, with a big block, th400 tranny with a 3500 stall converter, a 3.73 rear and 28 tall, 10 wide slicks.

    This combo netted a 10.66 et at about 120 mph.

    Horsepower comes out to around 600 needed to make it work. Not to hard with a 462 with 12 to 1 compression, an SP1 and 1000 thermoquad, headers, and some new stage 1 aluminum heads. Just get one of JW's $11,000 engines.

    OK, who's gonna step up to the plate first??
     
  17. cacmanjr

    cacmanjr Well-Known Member

    I couldn't agree more. Nothing beats a lot of torque but a lot more torque.

    I think my cars are my mid life crisis. Just ask my wife......she knows everything anyway!!


    Well Phil, my big block is 470 cubic inches with 9.6:1 compression with a b4b and an Edelbrock 850 qjet. 446 horsepower according to AMPs' dyno. I'm planning on 3.73s', 3500 stall and 26 inch slicks. I'm also hoping to get the race weight down to about 3500(with me in the car). High 11s' this season? I ran 12.77 last season at 4012 race weight with 2600 stall and 3.42s'.

    2004 season......Aluminum heads, more cam, SP1 and 950 Holley or Demon.

    I may not be first but I do have a plan.:bglasses:
     
  18. TXGS

    TXGS Paint by numbers 70 GS 455 4spd

    Guys I don't think you will be able to get a 28" tall tire in that wheel well. I will post the size that my friend runs.
     
  19. 70 gsconvt

    70 gsconvt Silver Level contributor

    OK, going from a 28" to a 26" slick will get you another .1 quicker.
     
  20. TXGS

    TXGS Paint by numbers 70 GS 455 4spd

    I wanna say he is running a 26.5' tall tire but can't remmember the width.
     

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