425 & Th400

Discussion in ''Da Nailhead' started by Lee Martin, Jul 7, 2008.

  1. Lee Martin

    Lee Martin Active Member

    I should know the answer to this, but will a modern TH400 bolt to a '66 425? Or is an adaptor kit required?
     
  2. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    What do you mean by "modern"?

    You need a TH 400/Super Turbine 400 that has the nailhead "round-top" bellhousing. And (I think) those were all done in '66.

    No doubt there is an adapter kit that will allow you to bolt a BOP- or Chevy-style bellhousing to the Nailhead bolt pattern--but--I don't know where to get one.

    GM built transmissions for a bunch of cars you wouldn't ordinarily expect--Jaguars, Ferrari, Rolls-Royce/Bentley, etc. Might be that one of those cases is the same as a nailhead, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

    I know where there's a '64 TH 400 for Buick; and there's certainly other, newer, round-case 400s in the same salvage yard. Shipping is a bugger; and this yard isn't cheap.
     
  3. DanStokes

    DanStokes Member

    Google for Bredtsen's (I think he also uses the name "Transmission Adaptors" or something like that). They make adaptors for pretty much everything Buick.

    Dan

     
  4. nailheadnut

    nailheadnut Riviera addict

    The transmission in the '64 is a ST400, but it DOES NOT have the switch pitch feature. Only the 65 -66 ST400 for nailheads, and the '67 with the BOP bellhousing are the s/p designs. If you can find a '66 LeSebre 340 engine with the ST400, it will have the s/p feature. However, most '66 LeSebres came with the ST300. The easiest way to tell is to pull the electric wire going to the terminal on the driver's side of the transmission: two terminal ends - switch pitch :grin: , one terminal end, just the kickdown for the passing gear :( .

    Ed
     
  5. Lee Martin

    Lee Martin Active Member

    Thanks guys. I'm familiar with Bendsten's and will give him a call. What I'm trying to do is mate a Chevy pattern TCI TH400 to a '66 425. Sounds like I need the adaptor kit.
     
  6. nekkidhillbilly

    nekkidhillbilly jeffreyrigged youtube channel owner

    eelco has adapters and there about 300 bucks cheaper than benstends

    if you plan to go that route i would go all out and mount a od auto to it though
     
  7. Lee Martin

    Lee Martin Active Member

    Thanks, but I'll stick with Bendsten's. I've dealt with EELCO before and wasn't that impressed. In fact, the manual adaptor kit they sold me for my other nailhead had the ring gear on the wrong side of the flywheel.

    As for an overdrive, the 425 is going into a '55 gasser.....for nostalgia sake, I want to use 1:1 for high gear.
     
  8. nailheadnut

    nailheadnut Riviera addict

    Google Marty Lackner, owner of Eelco, and see what pops up.
     
  9. Lee Martin

    Lee Martin Active Member

    I know what pops up. That's why I'm going to go with Bendsten's.

    Thanks,
    -Lee
     
  10. nekkidhillbilly

    nekkidhillbilly jeffreyrigged youtube channel owner

    i bought from him no issues but to each there own

    but question what is the nostalgia reason for going to a 1:1 drive ratio? i dont see what would be different other than better mpg?
     
  11. lapham3@aol.com

    lapham3@aol.com Well-Known Member

    Funny/strange , but both of these adapter guys have certain 'issues'. I might be missing something, but why not just bolt up a '65-6 ST400? -they're strong, cheap and available-shipping could be bad. I have some-I think Ed does-pick up in Mpls or Kansas City-where be you?
     
  12. nekkidhillbilly

    nekkidhillbilly jeffreyrigged youtube channel owner

    i agree unless you want a od trans
     
  13. yacster

    yacster Lv the gun tk the Canolis

    a Variable Pitch TH400 is an awsome tranny- it's like having 2 trans in 1. Hi stall for when you want to kick butt low stall for when you want to cruise.:TU: Both of my cars will be getting them. The Riv will be real soon!
     
  14. Lee Martin

    Lee Martin Active Member

    Thanks guys. I agree the ST400 is a nice unit. The thing is I have a line on a new TCI TH400 (GM pattern). The '55 is pretty much going to be a drag car, so I'm not worried about OD and mpg.
     
  15. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    You'll want a well-built fixed pitch converter for consistency, then.

    Devon
     
  16. Mr62Buick

    Mr62Buick Guest

    I have 2 1965 turbo 400's and one 1966 variable pitch trans. One of each is rebuilt and ready for install. These are the round bellhousing style that require no adapters at all to fit the nailhead as these are from nailheads.
     
  17. nailheadnut

    nailheadnut Riviera addict

    If the two '65 ST400 are indeed what you say, then you have three variable pitch transmissions. Only the '64 was the non-varible pitch ST400 that came with a round (nailhead) bellhousing. Look at the terminals on the driver's side; if there are two, it is a variable pitch. If not, look at the tag on the passenger's side and look for the year and trans model - BT, BS, etc. - for proper identification.

    Ed
     

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