3.8 turbo pistons in the 350

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Darryl Roederer, Feb 21, 2005.

  1. Darryl Roederer

    Darryl Roederer Life is good

    OK guys-
    The dual turbo 350 project is gaining steam,,, maybe even heading for the home-stretch.
    I need an absolute 100% answer on this one, no guessing.
    I do know for a fact that 3.8 pistons will physically fit into the 350, so assuming the aftermarket forged turbo slugs will fit is a natural.
    But I need a difinative answer on compression ratio I'll end up with.
    What are the differences on the compression height of the two pistons?

    Ultimately, what I'll need is somewhere between 7.5 to 8:1 compression without the piston sitting a mile down in the hole, messing up quench and all.
    Will the 3.8 pistons give me what I need? or am I doomed to lay out mountains of cash for full customs?

    The turbos wll be Garrett T-04's, and the cam will be a crower 292/304.
    Induction will be via a pair of holly 600's
    Naturally, the block will be O-ringed, but I'm looking for advice on head gaskets.

    Hey JB, if your reading this, shoot me a PM about the forged rods you were working on a while back... Prices still up close to $1000??? May also be looking at a set of heads like Ron's from you.... Or maybe a little milder... Dont need extreme breathing with forced induction :Smarty:
    After I finish this, the new single plane intake is next :TU:
     
  2. ap1672

    ap1672 Silver Level contributor

  3. gsjohnny

    gsjohnny Well-Known Member

    darryl,

    what intake are you going to use ? i'm going with a mopar 360 M1 intake.

    john
     
  4. 87GN_70GS

    87GN_70GS Well-Known Member

    Jiminy Christmas guys !! Take a few moments and order some parts catalogs. Call or e-mail Federal-mogul, Comp, whoever, intead of all this guessing. From Federal-Mogul's X-3009, 1996 catalog:
    The 231-turbo H521NP (hyper) piston has a comp dist of 1.800" and a dish vol of 24cc. The 231-turbo L2481F (forged) piston has a comp dist of 1.825" and a dish vol of 24.5cc. The 350 10:1 L2343F (forged) piston has a comp dist of 1.852" and a dish vol of 8.4cc. The 350 8:1 H644P has a comp dist of 1.80" and the 9.5:1 H522P has a comp dist of 1.855.
     
  5. Darryl Roederer

    Darryl Roederer Life is good

    Thanks guys.
    The intake is a complete cistom piece. I started out wanting a long runner ram style with an integrated inercooler, but it was just too much work, ended up with a sheet metal single plane.
     
  6. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Daryl around???
     
  7. diver

    diver Well-Known Member

    3.8 turbo piston in 350:
    Remember the 350's parent was a 300 which used the same piston as the old odd-fire 225 V6. There was no turbo piston that I know of for that engine.
    When the 231 V6 changed to even-fire the rods were paired on the same throw. This meant that something had to be offset, I think it was the location in the piston where the rod connects. I am sure that the rod its self was not off-set one end to other. A look at V6 and V8 would show the difference.
    Diver
     
  8. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    i have attahced the info I have from the turbo pistons I just bought. I only spent a little bit of $ to get these so I have nothing to loose! Thanks fo the concerna dn info though.

    Attached info:
     
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