2013 Cadillac XTS HID headlights

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Mark Demko, Sep 27, 2023.

  1. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Working on this car at work, it was hit low, took out bumper and left headlamp and wiring, trying to splice in new male connector ( new aftermarket) as the original was torn off and MIA.
    ALL the leads on the new connector are black, I referenced the right harness for the wire colors and where they’re pinned at the new connector.
    Right headlamp works, left side nothing.
    The left H/L housing is new aftermarket, the factory harness INSIDE the H/L housing has 3 fatter black wires that have 3 colored wires spliced in.
    I’m WAAAAY outta my wheelhouse with this wiring on this car.
    Does the BCM need programming or something?
    This thing is overly complicated.
    Body and paint came out nice tho!
     
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  2. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

    Either swap the RH headlamp to the left to test your wiring, or swap the new LH headlamp to the right to test the A/M assembly.
     
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  3. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    Are they HIDs? I had one fail on my wife’s ‘17 Durango. Found out (1) it has a fuse for each side, and (2) a ballast for each side. The high and low beam come from the same bulbs, too, just changes aim sonehow. Kept blowing the right side fuse so I unplugged the bulb, no change. I 829B9900-751B-457A-845A-716C8C82434A.jpeg 14130429-C485-4B84-A33B-448C929A180C.jpeg pulled the ballasts and swapped sides, isolated it to the ballast. Ballast was over $400 but it fixed it. You have to make it pretty ugly to fix it!
    Patrick
     
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  4. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Did that yesterday, I critiqued my wires to the pins again, also brought in my self powered test light, found out which lead was turn signal and headlamp. Right lamp worked on left side, but aftermarket lamp nothing, connector was wonky, got everything working, found out the engine HAS to be running for turn signals or hazards, HOW DUMB! Any how car was running while I tinkered with the turn signal, then the engine abruptly quit, GREAT I FRIED SOMETHING! Nope, it ran outta gas!
    Put gas in restarted, blinker is blinking, the the amber bulb for the blinker burned out, cheap China bulb, replaced with a new cheap China bulb.
    Using a self powered test light verses a regular test light is interesting, the BCM supplies ground or leaves the circuit open, which I had to decipher with the 3 ground leads coming from the BCM, I HATE modern technology!

    Yes they are HIDs, I was reading the decal on the back of one of the nuclear atom splitters on the one housing, WOW 1200 volts DC!
     
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  5. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    Hi Mark, I can understand the engine having to be running for the directionals (in a 2013, but now with the ridiculous start/stop "feature" not today), but one reason that the hazards are in use is because the engine will not run. I agree - HOW DUMB!
     
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  6. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    You had to remove the bumper, valance and grill to fix that? That's almost reaching Ford status.
     
  7. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

    So everything is working now? I would throw that Power Probe in the trash. One wrong move with it and you WILL be buying expensive modules. We use old-fashioned incandescent test lights, a GOOD DVOM like Fluke, and fog light bulb in a socket for load testing circuits.
     
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  8. Bill's Auto Works

    Bill's Auto Works QUALITY AT ITS BEST!

    Hey Mark,

    That is way past anything I would want to deal with! LOL

    Yes my XLR-V is an "07" & my Wife drives a 2020 Subaru Crosstrek as her daily driver, but I have no interest in any of that crap. Heading towards a semi- retirement , but I know if something happens with her car....I will be dealing with it!

    Once she retires in a couple of years I will put her in a classic of her choosing, but until then I will fix whatever her Subaru throws at us.

    So far she has picked a 57 T-Bird ( I told her she had to dye her hair blond before I would buy that for her), A Nash Metropolitan, A 57 DeSoto FireFlyte 2 door or Conv, etc,etc,etc. Realistically it will be something I already have that has PS & PB, Air & Cool Stereo. So glad I don't have to deal with what you are going through!

    God Bless
    Bill
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  9. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    Yep, although it comes apart (and goes together) pretty easily.
    Patrick
     
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  10. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    I thought the same thing!
    Although it will have to go somewhere to get the forward view camera and whatever else recalibrated or whatever they do.
    This techno crap is neat ( it’s not cool just neat) but it’s a one hit wonder, it gets damaged for whatever reason, game over.
     
  11. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Yes everything works, although it will probably have to go somewhere for reprogramming for the forward view camera ( under the inside rear view mirror) I found that in the trunk, had to look up online WTH it was.
    Also have to repair some of the bumper harness for the sensors, yeah, that will turn out well, LOLOL!
     
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  12. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

    We've had plenty (many 100's) of bumper covers off, mostly for ADAS and headlight work. Drop the Caddy off on Monday and we'll get that recal done for you! The Euro headlights are the worst to deal with BY FAR. Some of them can have 3 modules each, and our local body shops are no good when it comes to at the very least getting the modules (and fans) transferred over. We are routinely into 4 figures in diag, repair and recals on those, and that's with them supplying the parts. Sometimes they are their own worst enemy, and I'm done with the "can you can make it up on the next one" deal. :mad::rolleyes:
     
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  13. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    My boss bought it thinking “it’s just a bumper cover and a few trim pieces”
    I’m thinking “it’s an over complicated piece of GM garbage Cadillac”
    I do body and paint and old school mechanics, this Cadillac is STUPID COMPLICATED!
     
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  14. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Yep, body guys (me included) are clueless when it comes to the electronic stuff :eek:
     
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