1973 GS 455 Stage 1 for sale in Lake Villa, IL, $8999

Discussion in 'Cars and Parts For Sale Leads' started by Boscoe, Jul 19, 2006.

  1. Boscoe

    Boscoe Well-Known Member

  2. Boscoe

    Boscoe Well-Known Member

    Hi stageone,

    Thanks for the info. Yes, I did bid on the white Stage 1 Sun Coupe, ten or eleven thousand, in the vain hope it might go cheap. I still think about making an offer on it, even though it's more than I should spend, it would have to sit in an apartment parking lot, and it would be a long time before I could afford to properly restore it.

    I like the blue one now in PA nearly as much as I like the white one, and it seems to have had a better restoration. It has 455 emblems on the fenders, is it really a Stage 1?

    Do you know the details of the misrepresented red car? I checked the buyer's web site but didn't see any way to contact him.

    The mustard one needs more bodywork than I am inclined to deal with. Even if I could talk the guy down several grand it's still more than I should spend when I'm saving for a house.

    There's a 73 Century on eBay right now that is more my present speed, financially. It's a dark red 2-door with a 350, a/c, and automatic and looks like it is in pretty good shape. The opening bid is $3k, there's no reserve, only 2 days left, and no one has bid on it yet. Unfortunately, it's too far away (Lantana/West Palm Beach, FL) to go check it out and I'm not sure I'd even know everything to look for. Here's the link if anyone wants to see it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...m=260009934763&ih=016&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT

    I'm tempted to take a chance on it just to have a `73 to drive. It needs a new or rechromed front bumper, and has a few rust bubbles, but it might be a sweet ride with a set of 15x8 rally wheels (if they'll fit), and it's not too valuable to drive.

    Again, thanks for the info on the cars. I still may give in to temptation and go after one of the GS's.
     
  3. 73Stage1

    73Stage1 Well-Known Member

    Never thought i'd find a post on the car that i bought. Bought it from Ralph. And i must say, I WILL NEVER DEAL WITH HIM AGAIN. I ended up filing a complaint with the State's Attorney General Office for his selling techniques. I bought the car as an investment and the 4,500 he told you he would take for the car was a lie. But, on the bright side, it is a numbers matching car and everything is there. Its a awesome car in my opinion...Restoration on it will be starting here shortly.

    Brandon G.
     
  4. Boscoe

    Boscoe Well-Known Member

    I'm glad the car went to a Buick guy and is going to be restored. It was too much for me to take on. I ended up buying a `71 Centurion convertible. I'd like to hear the details about the transaction and your complaint.
     
  5. 73Stage1

    73Stage1 Well-Known Member

    Well i cant tell you all of the details, but i will summarize for you. He was asking 9K for it. WHen i was just first looking at the car ralph blurted out, make me an offer. When i went to look at the car to take it for a test drive, before i got out of the lot the master went on it. Well i went in to talk numbers with him and i asked him what his bottom dollar was. He said he had no clue what the co-signer's bottom was. Or even what he wanted to get out of it. (other than the asking price which i wasnt going to offer) So i offered him 7K without the master fully fixed and 7,500 if he fixed it himself. (i live an hour or so away and really didnt feel like changing it myself..i know, im lazy)...He had said there was a Co-signer involved. The "Co-signer" was and an over the road trucker so he was hard to get a hold of. So he was the Middle man. He straight up told me from teh beginning he would take nothing but cash. No Cashiers check, personal check, money transfer, JUST CASH. which i found very odd. If it were some other car i would have walked out there and then, but i knew it was a numbers matching stage 1. So i stuck with it. So the "co-signer" came back and accepted the offer of 7500 w/out master and 7800 with. (the 7000 and 7500 deal was in writing and contractual) So, this was the late afternoon and i told him i would call him in the morning to give him a fax # where he could send the offer accepted contract etc. Well, when i called him the next morning around 11 am he said he was just going to call me cause the "co-signer" backed out on the offer HE ACCEPTED THE DAY BEFORE.

    Now i must warn you, this next part you guys are probably going to give ME **** for but i bought this car as a LONG TERM Investment.

    The "co-signer" so Ralph says will take no less than 10K for the car as is. I obviously was quite upset and told him i'd think about it. So i had the car professionally appraised as it sat and it was appraised at 8450. 16,900 restored, and 26,900 fully restored(rotesserie). So i counter offered at 8500. NO deal. 10K only. Offered 9K, then 9500. NO deal. So i ended up paying 9950 CASH mind you (there was a $50 dollar retainer to get the first offer going). So, i told him I am NOT giving you CASH until i take the car for a test drive. As a test drive was on the contract agreement with the first offer. Well, he then tells me that i cant touch the car until he recieves the full amount. So i called his bluff and he gave in. Fixed the master, Took the car for a test drive. Everything was good with that. The deal is done now. I know you guys are going to tell me i way overpaid, but again, this is a long term investment for me. These cars will only get more rare, and desirable....as all of you know. This was all before i found this site, let alone threads on the car i now own. So, i honestly do not believe there was a co-signer in the first place. Yeh, i may have got it up the butt with no lube, but again..LONG TERM INVESTMENT.....so i hope that explains the transaction enough..i know should not have written for you some of the things that happened, but i think i need to let people know in what type of manner RALPH ROSE MOTORSPORTS deals with his customers. But i guess the State Attorney Generals office will conclude that.

    Brandon G.
     
  6. Boscoe

    Boscoe Well-Known Member

    The dealer's behavior is definitely suspicious and I'm sorry you had to pay that much to get the car. On the other hand, you're saving a genuine `73 Stage 1 GS. As for the price, gun collectors have a saying, "You didn't pay too much. You just paid it too soon." Prices will catch up. Since you're planning on keeping the car for several years and fixing it up, the purchase price will probably seem quite reasonable by the time you are ready to sell.

    Congratulations on getting the car and best of luck in its restoration.
     

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