1969 skylark wheel and tire size

Discussion in 'The Hides' started by Will, Jul 14, 2003.

  1. Will

    Will New Member

    does anyone know what the largest wheel and tire combo i can fit under my 1969 buick skylark, without any major modifications, i would also like to use a slick and need to find a tire that will fit
     
  2. lcac_man

    lcac_man Hovercraft Technician

    The rear requires careful measurement for backspacing in order to get a large tire in the wheel well, I've seen 295-50's in the rear of a 69 GS, but there was some trimming of the fender inner lip to get them in there and I think he still had some light rubbing.
    A 275-50 will fit with no trimming and no rubbing if your backspacing is correct, I used and 8" wheel with 5" of backspacing on mine and they fit perfect.
    A 235 or 245-60 is about as big as you want to go on the front without upgrading steering and suspension components. With a 7" wheel, 4" of backspacing works well.
     
  3. Davis

    Davis Moderator

    68/69 rear tire size.

    at a event in a Kentucky city about 3 years ago someone showed me their car with 275/50-15 on it with no trimming at all, they said they were 8.5" wide with 5.25" backspacing.

    on my 68 i chickended out and used 235/60-15 BFG DR on ralleye wheels.

    i would love to step up to the 275/50'a as i can still spin them from a dead stop but do they hook from a slight roll like street tires cant.
     
  4. gdbuick

    gdbuick Well-Known Member

    69 wheel sizes

    Just wondering how you made out with the replies on wheel sizes. I also have the same question fitting the most meat under a 69 skylark and found this subject doing a search. I had a guy tell me he runs 275/60/15 on 15 x8 w/ 4 1/2 back spacing on his 69. Same guy says he runs 15x8 5 1/2 back spacing 29.5 x 9.0 slick with a 1/4 spacer. Says he has a chevelle 12 bolt rearend.
    I'm looking to buy something this winter.

    Later
    Greg
     
  5. lcac_man

    lcac_man Hovercraft Technician

    I spent alot of time measuring my 68, the absolute biggest tire you can get in there is a 295, if your using a 15x8 your backspacing will have to be 5.25", a 275 is a much nicer fit (what I went with) a 15x8 with 5" of backspacing gives you great clearance, no trimming required.
     
  6. gdbuick

    gdbuick Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info. I'm no rim size expert but figured someone else has been through this before before I buy it and own it. I'll assume you are talking 275/60/15 series not 50 series. If so the only difference between what the other guy told me he runs is 4 1/2 backspacing and not 5" as you suggested. Interested what you have to say about 4 1/2 vs 5 " backspacing. I plan to buy new GS wheels from speciality wheel or CARS ordered to my backspacing needs. I'm trying not to make any body mods but may consider it if it was not seen from the outside.

    Is that your grey primered 68 gs convertable with 16" torq thrust wheels pictured on this site ?

    Thanks Greg
     
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  7. lcac_man

    lcac_man Hovercraft Technician

    Yep, that's mine.
    50 or 60 series makes no difference in tire width, only hieght.
    A 275-50 is 275mm wide and the sidewall height is 50% of that (137.5mm)
    A 275-60 is 275mm wide and sidewall hieght is 60% of that (164mm)
    A 275-60 is probably 1.5" taller that a 275-50.
    Backspacing and wheel wide are directly tied together, if the guy your talking to is running 15x7's then 4-4.5" of backspacing makes good sense, if your gonna step up to 15x8s then you'll need to go with 4.75-5.25" of backspacing, remember your trying to center the wheel in the well.
    You measure backspacing from the back lip of the wheel to the hub surface, the lip is commonly counted as .5" so on a 15x7 wheel if you want to center the tire to the hub surface you would need 4" of backspacing (7/2=3.5+.5=4), typically the hub surface is about .5" farther toward the outter fender so you'd add that to the backspacing landing you at 4.5".
    Same math applies to the 8" wide wheel, but the wider you go the more interference you run into (tailpipes and shockmounts).
    HTH
     
  8. gdbuick

    gdbuick Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the technical low down. Never did understand the 50 vs 60 series tires, that helped a lot. Sounds like I'll stick with your recommended sizes of 15x8 with 5" back spacing and mount 275/60's on them. I'm running 4.11 gears so taller is better for reducing my highway rpm's.

    Thanks
    Greg
     
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  9. lcac_man

    lcac_man Hovercraft Technician

    Make sure you've got good springs, that's a tall tire.
     
  10. gdbuick

    gdbuick Well-Known Member

    Well I checked out my 69 skylark when I got home last night. I have 245 mounted on 15X7 factory mags, not sure the back spacing. It looks like plenty of room to fit a tire/rim towards the back shock mount but only about 3/4 of an inch to the wheel body/trim. Is the extra metal hanging over the wheel trim protruding towards the wheel what everyone is talking about possibly trimming if needed ? If so I could live without that. Again I plan to order custom made buick rims/ backspacing for the rear and want to make sure I get the widest/tallest tire under there since I'm ordering.

    After hearing the detailed replies it sounds like 15X8 with 5" backspacing with 275/60's will fit the 68/69 Buick skylark but what about a wider rim size say 15X8.5 with 5" or 5.25 backspacing. Interested in hearing from others before I order.

    Thanks
    Greg
    69 455 buick skylark
    Bellingham, Ma
     
  11. Davis

    Davis Moderator

    Actually in theory a 275 tire should be the same width in a 50 or 60 series tire with the 275 being the common, but looking at the spec sheet they are not.

    the 50 series is wider. but it also varies by what size rim width the tire is mounted on, these specs do not use the same wheel width for both tires.

    the info doesnt paste into this very well, it is much easier to read with the link below.

    BFGoodrich Comp T/A Drag Radial

    Serv. Desc. Load Rating UTQG Max
    Load Max.
    Inflation Press.
    Tread Depth
    Rim Width Range
    Meas. Rim Width
    Sect. Width
    Tread Width
    Overall Diam.
    Revs Per Mile



    235/60R15 SL 0 B C
    1653lbs.
    44psi
    5/32nds
    6.5-8.5"
    7"
    9.5"
    8"
    26.1"
    794

    275/50R15 SL 0 B C
    1830lbs.
    44psi
    5/32nds
    7.5-9.5"
    8.5"
    11.3"
    10"
    26.1"
    791





    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?make=BFGoodrich&model=Comp+T/A+Drag+Radial
     
  12. gdbuick

    gdbuick Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info. Greg. Still hoping somebody chimes in with some maximum rim sizes and offsets that fit the 69 skylark with no mods or slight mods. Hopefully some of the race guys will chime in...

    Later
    Greg
     
  13. lcac_man

    lcac_man Hovercraft Technician

    You can go to a wider wheel, I looked at 9.5's backspacing will need to be 5.5"-5.75" and the shock mount becomes a real issue, you really need to go to a larger diameter wheel if you go past 5.625" of backspacing just to clear the lower shock mount (a 17" wheel will clear nicely) but you'll also need to consider tail pipe clearance.
     
  14. Andy455

    Andy455 Member

    Hi guys. I'm hoping someone here can help me figure out what size of tire I need.
    I have a 69 skylark custom 2dr hardtop eith a 70 455. It came with 15x8 corvette rally rims. 4" backspacing. The tires were old bias ply rotten. With 4" bs what would be the widest tire I can tuck under there without rubbing. My car is still in storage so I can't measure. Just hoping someone can offer some insight. Thanks.
     

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  15. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Hard to say, a 15 X 8" rim needs a minimum of 5" of back spacing to center the rim in the wheel well of a 68-69 Skylark. If the current tires fit, I'd post their size, and measure how much outside clearance you have with those tires. Then we can make an educated guess. Sorry, no easy answer, at least one you could depend/take a chance on.
     
  16. Jeremy Zepnick

    Jeremy Zepnick STEELMAN

    I just bought 15x7 with 4-1/2 back spacing custom American racing rims, 275's Hoosier DR2's fit with just over 1/4" clearance with the fender.

    I also bought 15x7 with 3.71" back spacing normal American racing rims. 255's fit easily. With 5/8" clearance.
     
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  17. MEXICOYA

    MEXICOYA Well-Known Member

    Anyone have 15” American Racing VN501 wheels? I’m looking at 15x7 front and 15x8 rear and wondering what the best Cooper tire size to get for my 69 GS. Would be nice to see some pics if anyone has some. Appreciate it!
     
  18. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    Also, the alignment of the rear axle to the body varies in these cars, so unless you measure your car specifically, you cannot be certain, FYI.
     
  19. 1968_GS400

    1968_GS400 Founders Club Member

    Those are both 0 mm offset which translates to 4” backspace for 15x7 and 4.5” backspace for 15x8.

    The second post in this thread gives you a sense. 275/50 might be too tight in rear on a 15x8 with only a 4.5” backspace but you could check. 255/60 probably would fit but you should check for rubbing. As Max Damage says, every car is different.

    235/60 or 245/60 on front likely will fit on the 15x7 with 4” backspace.


     
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  20. MEXICOYA

    MEXICOYA Well-Known Member

    Appreciate the responses! upload_2024-3-20_19-12-13.png
     
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