1970 rear defroster questions

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  1. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    This one has me a little confused...

    The rear package tray in the X was replaced at some point and the original defroster was never put back in. So I'm trying to determine-

    What style grillwork it's supposed to have and where is the correct location

    So if you look underneath the shelf, on the drivers side where the speaker would go, you can see a faint rust mark where the original housing mated up

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    The rust mark lines up perfectly with the housing like it was originally mounted there. But the only grill work that fits that location is this one-

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    This is the style grill I've always seen-

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    Mountung it on the drivers side presents a few issues. Like the speaker opening in the tray. I lined it up where it would fall in place and you csn see the speaker openings are an issue

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    Im thinking I should just mount it in the center..

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  2. Fred Hickey

    Fred Hickey Founders Club Member

    DE099AB5-7662-4146-A7C8-D6FED5D2CBB9.jpeg A07CB66E-835B-4AB2-A704-A6B0A7FAF0B6.jpeg E915B560-4B78-48D2-91C7-62A3301C26B4.jpeg Not sure if this was ever altered
     
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  3. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    I put that tray in, that's right! Totally forgot!
     
  4. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    The 2nd picture with rounded housing is correct for a '70 - I sold this one below awhile back & it definitely came out of a '70. I thought the rectangular housing was '71-2. Hard to argue w/the orig. marks though. Is it possible that late '70 cars came w/the '71 style? Really early '70 cars came w/the '69 style.

    https://www.v8buick.com/index.php?threads/70-rear-defroster.349259/
     
  5. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    The original marks threw me! It really looks like it was off to the drivers side.

    It's going in the center
     
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  6. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Can anyone else chime in?
     
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  7. Duane

    Duane Member

    They were never in the center.

    That is where guys "restoring cars" like to put them, especially if they put dual rear speakers in the car, which is something else they never had.
    Duane
     
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  8. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Whats really odd is the fact that the beaters defroster was in the center when I bought it. It had the original package tray in it that looked like burnt toast. If it means anything, that car was built in June.

    But after much online research, I determined I have the wrong grill work. The 70 looks identical to what I have, but thr studs are in a different location. So now I'm on the hunt for the right grill and plastic filler piece
     
  9. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    Sold my complete setup to @corkgs - It's probably sitting on a shelf but obviously you only really need the grille.
     
  10. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    I'd buy the whole thing
     
  11. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    Idk if he'd sell it but can't hurt to PM him & ask.
     
  12. bill lagna

    bill lagna Well-Known Member

    I have a 70 defrost grill that has 2 screws about 2" from the square end
    and 0ne screw at the center of the round end. Its dk brown .
    Bill
     
  13. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Do you happen to have the thin black plastic piece that goes underneath?
     
  14. Trophyblue442

    Trophyblue442 Member

    [QUOTE="buick64203,
    But after much online research, I determined I have the wrong grill work. The 70 looks identical to what I have, but thr studs are in a different location. So now I'm on the hunt for the right grill and plastic filler piece[/QUOTE]

    Correction… After speaking to your Oldsmobile friend you have determined you have the wrong grille work…
     
  15. bill lagna

    bill lagna Well-Known Member

    Jason
    Mine does not , they tend to fall apart when removing from the 50 year old cars. LOL
    bill
     
  16. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Correction… After speaking to your Oldsmobile friend you have determined you have the wrong grille work…[/QUOTE]

    After my Oldsmobile friend called me to yell at me first.....:D:D
     
  17. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    Seems you have this figured out but here's a '70 (Flint) that apparently had a rear defogger. Still has the wiring anyway.
     

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  18. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    I take it this is for 70 only?
    My 71 early Dec 70 build is smack dab in the center.
     

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  19. Matt Knutson

    Matt Knutson Well-Known Member

    The early '70 rear window defroster used a long, thin grille on top of the package tray. I think it was centered. I think it woulds mount in the long thin centered rectangular hole in the picture of yours. As I recall the motor fan and housing mounted on the rear trunk/ seat panel. I'm quite sure you need that set-up.
     
  20. Matt Knutson

    Matt Knutson Well-Known Member

    Just checked - what I'm referring to is '69 +early '70 defroster kit. This kit changed in '70. If someone has a '70 parts manual it will show the part number of the kit. My '71 manual only has part numbers for the parts of the kit that were available in Nov.'71
    I had this set-up in my first GS - got it from a junkyard Skylark
     
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2021

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