Car will not start, Please Help!

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Jimmy12, Mar 3, 2020.

  1. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    I will try the small stuff that I can do on my own for now. I will follow your directions and if it doesn’t start, I’ll let Bob school me up
     
  2. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

    If you don’t have a dwell meter (yet) or timing light, give the vacuum advance can a tug about 1/8” CCW and see what happens. Don’t touch the carb! 2 pumps, hold pedal halfway down at least while cranking, and if it starts, be ready to get off the gas before it over revs. If the carb catches on fire, don’t panic and keep cranking until it’s out.
     
  3. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    Understood. I might have some time later today to mess with it.
     
  4. BuickV8Mike

    BuickV8Mike SD Buick Fan

    Here's the required timing per my 1969 manual.


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  5. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    The above only applies when you have the original distributor. How likely is that on a 50 year old car that has had the distributor replaced?
     
  6. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    Since I’ve had it (almost 10) years now I never replaced it until now. Before me Who knows
     
  7. mikethegoon

    mikethegoon Well-Known Member

    On my 68 350 it has to go °O at around 450 or 500 rpm. The proof comes under hard acceleration. Anything else will produce spark knock -or whatever u want to call it. Detonation etc
     
  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Jim, can you get the distributor number for me? It's stamped into the circumference just below the cap parting line.
     
  9. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    That's because the original distributor had up to 30* of mechanical advance.

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  10. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    Definitely Larry as soon as I get home I’ll take a look at it for you
     
  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    In one of your pictures, it looks like 1112109, but I am not sure if you replaced that distributor or that is the replacement distributor that you currently have installed.

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  12. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    This is the second new distributor. The first replacement I did a month ago had the broke wire on it so I returned it and got this one. This is the one currently installed on the car A1D9F822-BBCD-4C9F-8C13-A4CB131120E2.jpeg
     
  13. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    I think it said 11121091H9
     
  14. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Good, 1112109 is a 1972 Buick 350 distributor, it is WAY better than the correct 69 distributor. Have a look at the specs, first the correct 1969 distributor,

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    30-34* of mechanical advance. It has to be initially timed at 0* or so.

    Now the 1972 Distributor,

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    12-16* of mechanical advance. You can easily run 12-14* of initial advance. The engine will like a lot better.
     
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  15. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    So if I’m understanding correctly when I get the compression stroke at tdc do I match the harmonic balancer to the tab at 0 or do I make the tab line up with the 12 on the tab and then insert the distributor?
     
  16. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Id stab it in around 10 degrees initial. Anywhere in that areas within a few degrees will get you in the ball park. Once the car starts, you'll have to fine tune it with a light
     
  17. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    Sounds good. Thank you guys. I definitely appreciate that guidance
     
  18. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    I would get rid of the points first off!
     
  19. Jimmy12

    Jimmy12 Well-Known Member

    Does that mean I have to replace the distributor again??
     
  20. BuickV8Mike

    BuickV8Mike SD Buick Fan

    Maybe not set the balancer to 10* and see where the rotors pointing. May need to simply rotate it a bit to pint at #1
     

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