Lack of oil in heads

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Special65, Mar 23, 2020.

  1. Special65

    Special65 Member

    Hello all!

    Pretty new to the forum, lots of reading to get myself up to speed.

    I bought a 65 Special a couple of years ago that has the V6 with the assumption of swapping something in. I found a 70 455 on a local classifieds and bought it after hearing it run (on a stand with no water circulating). It started right up from cold and idled nice and sounded healthy. Had a test light connected to the oil sending unit and it went off as soon as it started. It sounded healthy (no knocks or tapping) and soumded powerful through open headers. We only let it run for 30 seconds or so though to keep it from getting too hot without water in it.

    I bought it and have been in the process of cleaning it up to paint it before I drop it in. Luckily I took the valve covers off to make it a little easier to get them nice. Under the passenger side valve cover I see that the oil got cooked at one point and there is no liquid oil on that side at all. I plan on pulling the distributor and manually running the oil pump, but what are the likely first things to check? Drivers side head is fairly dry but there is oil there versus the char on the other side.
     
  2. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    Oil in pushrods is like goo I'm sure....needs heat to get it moving. Put fresh thin oil in it with some Marvel Mystery oil and once warmed up will prob be fine.
     
  3. Special65

    Special65 Member

    At this point I could easily pull the rockers and clean the pushrods if that is all everyone thinks it needs.
     
  4. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    50/50 motor oil ATF in motor.. Hot plate oil pan get that oil hot.. remove distributor use a 1/2 inch drill motor circulate the oil pump...

    remove SPlugs rotate motor.
     
  5. Special65

    Special65 Member

    That sounds easy enough. Thanks!
     
  6. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    I forgot add a Cheap oil filter to the mix..
    You won't believe how much sludge will come out.. That Hot oil/mix does wonders. But dont get it so hot that it cooks..
     
  7. ghrp

    ghrp Well-Known Member

    I am pretty sure that everything will turn find after a good clean up and a new "break in" per say
     
  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I know you said it is a 70 455, but you don't know the complete history of the engine. Prior to 1970, the 400-430 oiled the heads through passageways in the block/heads. The lifters, push rods, and rocker arm assemblies were different. Make sure you have all the right parts. Having said that, I agree with most that it probably needs to be warmed up thoroughly with fresh oil before you conclude you have a problem.
     
  9. Special65

    Special65 Member

    The numbers on the block say 70 but I will check to see what the numbers on the heads indicate, especially if I can't get any oil up through the pushrods.
     
  10. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I would also make sure the lifters and push rods are correct. Pre 70 lifters will not have the oil feed hole in the lifter cup.
     
  11. Thumper (aka greatscat)

    Thumper (aka greatscat) Well-Known Member

    Verify if its a 70, if it is and you are looking for reliable performance some oiling mods are necessary. They can be done without fully disassembling,before installing, but if not you'll spin some rod bearings, later 71-75 blocks had the mods done at the factory. Also an oil pump booster plate should be installed.
     
  12. Special65

    Special65 Member

    You guys were 100% correct. I have to admit I was skeptical and expecting a much more expensive fix. Hot oil and some warmth on each pushrods with a propane torch got oil flowing right away.

    Thanks for your help!
     
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  13. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    Thanks for the update.....;)
     

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