Here are the final rules for the Power-Adder class to be run at the 2009 Bowling Green Event. :TU: More events to follow pending participation..... CLASS DESCRIPTION Xtreme Street is a heads up class designed for stock appearing, rear wheel drive America production vehicles produced 1960-2008. Entries are permitted Buick powered v-6 or v-8, small block or big blocks with superchargers, turbochargers, or nitrous. All Run, NHRA Sportsman Ladder, Pro .400 tree, Heads-Up. REQUIREMENTS AND SPECIFICATIONS BODY The body must retain its original appearance and profiles. Original OEM body shell type and dimension required. Aftermarket fiberglass replacement panels allowed for hood, hoodscoop, bumpers, and OEM appearing replacements that bolt on. Aerodynamics - Taping of any parts of body, seams, or front end is prohibited. Firewall/Fender wells - Firewall must be original and in stock location. Fender wells not required Hood/Scoop - Cowls and factory type forward facing scoops only. May be liftoff. No visible altercations to outside body for fresh air. Forward facing Hood scoop allowed for n/a. Hood/scoop must cover entire engine and induction components. Interior - Dash and carpeting are required. Interior wheelwells may be modified for tire clearance. Aftermarket bucket seats are allowed. A full stock dashboard with instruments (aftermarket instruments are allowed) and controls must be retained. The back seat may be deleted. Lettering/Decals - Car lettering is limited to windows only. Wheel tubs - In order to clear legal tires, mini-wheel tubs are acceptable. Windshield/Windows FRONT Windows must be operative but closed during racing. Front and rear windows may be lexan but must appear OEM. No lexan allowed that requires support or that does not conform to the original contour of OEM without support. No crazed, fogged, or weathered lexan that that creates a safety hazard and does not pass for the clear appearance of OEM glass. Wings/Spoilers - Factory available front and rear spoiler or wing for specific year/make/model of body used will be allowed. A maximum of a 12 aftermarket rear wing is allowed with a maximum side height of 3.5. BRACKET RACING AIDS Bracket racing aids such as optical sensors, delay boxes, stutter boxes, and throttle stops are not allowed. CHASSIS/SUSPENSION Chassis No back-half chassis. Full factory type frame rails required. Front framerails must remain in the stock location and may not be altered for the purpose of providing tire clearance. Tubular crossmembers are permitted. Rear frame may be notched for tire clearance. Any strengthening members may be added to a stock frame. Front Suspension - Aftermarket direct-replacement components are allowed as long as stock mounting points are maintained on components and frame. Coilover shocks are permitted in stock spring location. Rear Suspension - Ladder bar, or modified stock suspension. Mounting points for stock type suspension may have multiple attach points for geometry change but must be in stock location. COOLING SYSTEM Radiator - must be mounted in stock location. No restriction on size. DRIVETRAIN Automatic Transmission - Any OEM type automatic transmission with torque converter is allowed. Transbrake is allowed. Aftermarket shifter allowed but any gear change must occur as a result of an internal function of the transmission or as direct action of the driver. Pneumatic, hydraulic, electric, etc. shifters prohibited. Manual Transmission - No planetary Lencos, Libertys, Jerico type transmission. Gear change must occur by clutch interruption from driver. Rearend - Any automotive type allowed, any ratio. ENGINE Must be Buick. Any make Buick engine in any allowed body style. There is no cubic inch limit. Any internal engine modifications are allowed. EXHAUST All exhaust must pass thru the muffler(s). FUEL Fuel - Only gasoline is allowed for the primary power source. Boosted applications allowed methanol or water/methanol to be added thru a small secondary system, not part of the primary fuel delivery system. Systems may not contain over one gallon of fluid. IGNITION Aftermarket ignitions, magnetos, multiple-step rev limiters, electronic-conversion kits, crank triggers, and external amplifier boxes are allowed. Intake Manifold Any commercially available single 4 barrel cast intake manifold except as outlined. Cast intake manifold may be internally modified. Naturally aspirated, Small Blocks, and v-6 engine can run fabricated sheet metal intake or cast. N/A Big Blocks and Small blocks allowed to run 2x4 setup. Nitrous Oxide - Nitrous oxide is allowed but may not be used in conjunction with supercharger or turbocharger. Electronics - Progressive systems and timers, which control nitrous/fuel delivery, are permitted. Electronic or automated boost controllers of any type are allowed on any forced induction vehicle. Supercharger No limitations for Small blocks and v-6s. Big Block combinations limited to a max outlet tube diameter of 3.5. Max I.D of supercharger 3.15. No steps or sleeves allows to alter the stock I.D. of outlets. Any size roots or screw allowed. Roots or Screw may run 2x4s carb setups. Single Turbos- No limitations for Small blocks and v-6. Big Block combination turbo limited to max outlet tube diameter 3.5. Outlet I.D. 3.15. No steps or sleeves allowed to alter the stock I.D. of outlets. Twin Turbos- No limitations for small block and v-6 combinations. Big block combinations limited to turbo with outlets limited to 2.05 I.D.. No steps or sleeves allowed to alter stock internal I.D. outlet dimensions. Turbo Placement - Turbo may be located anywhere inside the engine compartment, facing any direction. Inlet must not be forward of any body panels or grills. No external body/grill holes added for turbo inlets. Turbo inlet may remain open to outside air. Aftercoolers/Intercoolers - Aftercoolers/Intercoolers are permitted. Air-to-air coolers or Air-to-water coolers are the only systems acceptable. Water and ice are the only two acceptable components allowed in reservoir. Air-to-air allowed CO2 bars coolers over intercooler. ONBOARD DIAGNOSTICS/DATA RECORDERS Onboard diagnostic computers and data recorders are allowed. Memory and playback tachometers are acceptable. Autometer Dual Channel Ultimate II tachometers are acceptable. Optical and/or rpm pickups after the flywheel only allowed for use of data acquisition. STEERING - Any stock or aftermarket rack-and-pinion steering is allowed. TIRES Rear tires may either be DOT-approved and labeled or labeled for racing slicks. DOT tires must have labels facing the outside of the body and are limited to a 30x13.5 / 325 or 315 series radial. Any slick with the max sidewall designation of 30x10.5 allowed. The tread of tires must not protrude outside of the exterior of bodyline at top of tires. Base Weight 3,000 lbs - Naturally Aspirated Big Block. 3,200 lbs Nitrous Big Blocks. 3,400 lbs Supercharged v-8. 3,000 lbs Turbo / Supercharged Small blocks combination. 2,600 lbs Nitrous small block combinations 3,000 lbs - Turbocharged v-6 Air-to-water intercooler Add 100lbs Manual transmission Add 200lb.
guy's Rick and I have opened up the rules for everyone but the bbb. we are hopeing that will get some cars with different power plants we are going to level the field even more later. so 350 guy's spray the heck out of it or add ten turbos what ever it takes. build it and have fun lets all go racing.
May just be me and you vs the v-6's......:bla: o No: What do you think.....? Must be too many Buicks out there painted Yellow.....:shock:
Id run but i dont think my 10.5 will cut it, not bad for 4000#s and 93 octane though, ill have to wait and see how many cars enter first.
Wasn't there no such thing as a Buick engine built after 80-81??? The 3.8 or 3800 searies did live but it was a corp engine that came in everything. Might want to clarfyi what GM corp engines qualify as a Buick. The rover engines would be similar. Based on a Buick like the 3800 searies GM corp engines? Might get sticky if ya don't make it 100% clear what you consider is a Buick engine and what is not after 1980 when Buick was assimilated. [stiring the pot ]
I don't understand why it seems so difficult if it is a BUICK ENGINE MADE BY BUICK than it can be installed in any damn american car made within the years shown. v-6 turbo in a fox body mustangs OK and if you have a camaro with a nitrous assisted super-charged turboed 350 BUICK bring that some bitch and run. no corp. engines no jeep engines no chevy's just buick simple just buick engines. Sorry if I seem short on this but this horse has been beat till it was liquid on the v-6 boards.
There is no such thing as a Buick engine after 1980, they are all corp made??? Would a 4th gen Fbody with a factory 3800 count???
Not yellow do it Chicago style full 1320 quit the sissy stuff and run the whole quarter are cars are set fot the quarter. Let that blue four link regal in the class it is the same as a ladder bar. If i get my new motor i guarantee i will run the class full weight and all. But loosen the rules and watch what happens.
Sounds Great. :gp: I think the spirit is to build something different and have some fun. I am looking foward to building this pig and blowing it up first round so Alan can get to the second.:TU:
It doesn't has to come factory with a Buick motor. If you take any 4 gen Fbody and put any Buick 3800, 350, 455 that fits the rules, it counts. Understood it was "corperate" after 1980 but originally was BUICK and was consider a Buick based motor by everyone. Yes, it counts and yes a Turbo TA can run.
I see how it is, you wait all this time, :sleep: don't put any input in, wait to the rules get finalized so you have an excuse why you can't run.......ou: Don't worry, Bobb said he'll go ahead take care of you during T&T and put you back on the trailer before qualifying so you don't have to worry about it.....:laugh:
Rick i have made the same point for three years. Me and Bobb speak often and he already know how i feel. We have went through this before most cars don't fit that setup but a few. I like both of your cars and respect you two for what you build. You cant ask people who don't feel like the stand a chance to get in and go out in first round. How many cars in this class can go 8s? I only know two care to take a guess. I know another car that would blend in with you two care to take a guess who. Let it in make at least a three car field. Oh and as far as knocking me and in qualifying :blast: Bring it I got more nitrous bottles than time so i will turn it all on and show you what a real blast is through the whole 1320:bla: I think im going to like this class:beer Ill take care of Bobb myself he still working on leaving on green lights:laugh:
Brian The whole reason for looking at 1/8 mile is so cars that aren't in the 8's can have a chance. one screw up in the first sixty hands a slower car a win pretty fast. as far as you and me how did I get sucked into this:TU: I just mind my own business and look what happenso No: . You and I need to talk I heard a story and need to confirm the info I recieved somthing to do with a torn up slip:TU: :TU: :TU: . but this is not the place. sound like we might get a few v-6 guy's to play and I know of at least one guy that says hes going to try to NOS a 350 in a fox body stang that will come in at the minimum on the rules. lets just get some cars together and race see what shkes out of it.
Well Guys, Looks like the banter has started. I am the guy that has the Fox Stang. Was planning on my 540 going in it until, this class started. Bobb and I spoke about my SBB and a light car, having a chance. My question is who is gonna play? Looking for some good input and competion. Hopefully see some Fast cars in the field. Thanks John
john you know I want a piece of that mouse stang:moonu: . So lets git-er-done. It sould be assome for all.:TU:
Bobb, I will give you all the pieces when I am done with it..... You just get ready, when I align the Moons, and Drive around You....:3gears: Your buying the :beers2: Tell Crawford he is on the Kill list also. Now I am going out and get to cutting more crap off the "Kill Stang"....2600# Awsome....:laugh: Later John
That "Kill Stang" should fly at #2600.:idea2: I sold a cherry 50k miles '78 Fairmont 6 month back that would have been a good fit for this class. Also, I am getting rid of a 4130 Moly K frame for a fox body ($135) if you do not have one yet and need more room for a SBB.
