Which 4 spd in 68 GS350?

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  1. 19Skylark68 455

    19Skylark68 455 Neighborhood Nuisance

    What model and gearing of 4 speed came in 1968 GS350s? Some sort of Muncie? Thanks in advance.
     
  2. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    i believe it would be an M21 close ratio.
     
  3. 19Skylark68 455

    19Skylark68 455 Neighborhood Nuisance

    Even with the 3.23 gears from the factory? It would seem to make more sense to have a wide ratio in there with those.
     
  4. John Chitwood

    John Chitwood Well-Known Member

    It sure would be alot nicer to drive with a M-20 but buick may have put a M-21 in it. My 72 had 3.08 and a M-21 from the factory. You get good at
    feathering a clutch and then get better at changing the clutch. I havent
    had those gears in the car since 81.
     
  5. gs_jimmy

    gs_jimmy Well-Known Member

    It should of been a M20 Wide Ratio. 3.55 seems to be the GM cut off on the M20/M21-22 trans. Of course like the previous post says, odd things happen. That car might of been special orders with an M21, who knows.

    The "right" trans in a '68 is the M20 case #660, with a 1 inch counter shaft, 2.52 to 1 first gear. You could use the #1352 case 7/8" counter shaft trans, both will have the 10/27 input/output ends. The later #661 trans case used a 26/32 arrangement and required a different clutch disc & TH 400 style yoke.

    Easy way to do this using a 10/27 trans in place of the Powerglide. I did this swap a while back using mostly all stock parts in my '69. You will run into troubles locating a flywheel & bell crank (z-bar). I did a lot of cross reference in the old GM parts books to determine what interchanged between the models. Here is what I found:

    Z-bar - Chevelle w/SBC or I6, Skylark w/SBB or I6
    Flywheel - Skylark w/SBB, 350 cu in or Jeep '73 model year w/SBB 350 cu in
    Trans - Muncie M20 - Camaro, Olds, Chevelle, GTO, Skylark 1967 1/2 - 1970 early.
    Yoke - TH 350 or Powerglide, bonus, used the same driveshaft!
    Shift linkage - GTO Super Comp Hurst, repop linkage from Year 1
    Pedels - Buick specific, but parts book said 71 & 72 Pontiac with SBP works (it did)
    Clutch rod - Buick specific, I used a Chevelle unit & it worked
    Z-bar frame tab - any A Body will work (or repop unit) bolts in place
    Ball Stud for the block - used a Camaro unit

    Hope this helps,

    Jim
     
  6. 68 4 spd

    68 4 spd Active Member

    My 68 350 4 speed came out the factory door with a M-21 close ratio 4 speed with 3:23 gears. No A/C
     
  7. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    70 chevelle could be ordered with an m20 or an m21 - 350v8 (4bbl) or 396v8.
    i remember reading the option sheet.
     
  8. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

  9. Rich Johns

    Rich Johns Platinum Level Contributor

    Marco is correct all Buick received M21's.
    GS-Jimmy you are also correct for Pontiac only, GTO's, GP's and Birds received M20's with 3.55 or taller gear .M21 with 3.90 4.33 axles.
    Not sure about Chev and Olds.
     
  10. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    1968 chevelle could be ordered with an M20 or an M21 4 spd.
     

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