Torque converter recommendations

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by jr_, Sep 2, 2022.

  1. jr_

    jr_ Well-Known Member

    I have most of parts ready to start assembly on my 455. The camshaft is a ta 290-08h. Likely run stock intake bc ta doesn’t have a machinist to cut their rough castings.

    I do want to convert to 700r4. Likely run 3.42 rear end.

    Any suggestions?
     
  2. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    I would use the 2004r. Both it and 700 need help to live behind a big block with alot of torque.

    The 700 needs an adapter plate the 200 doesn't.
    The 700 has a huge gear spread from 1st to 2nd. The 200 is very close to the 350 and 400 gear spread.

    The 200 has a slightly better od ratio.
     
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  3. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  4. jr_

    jr_ Well-Known Member

    Monster claims they can build both a 2004r and 700r4 for healthy big blocks.
     
  5. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Yes, but those transmissions were never designed to deal with big block torque in a heavy car. Building them to live will cost you if it is done right. Years ago (2005), I went with the Gear Vendors Overdrive coupled to a THM400. That is, and still is, pretty bullet proof. The GV unit is rated for 1200 HP.

    https://www.gearvendors.com/index.html


    If I was looking to do an overdrive today, I would use the 4L80E.
     
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  6. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    Anyone can make claims.

    Actually living up to those claims is not easy. Or inexpensive. Or common, for that matter.

    I think it's crazy to even consider a 700/200 behind a big-block, when the 4L80E or an aftermarket overdrive + TH400 exist.
     
  7. jr_

    jr_ Well-Known Member

    Do not want to have to “modify” tunnel.
     
  8. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    You don't have to for a 4l80,..Monster has a quick ship trans for $2300,...add the ultra bell,.. converter and controller you'll be around 4k but it's the best route for durability
     
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  9. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Some of the 68/72 a bodies may need very light clearance on the floor pan brace
     
  10. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    700s have the constant pressure VB available now which is a huge improvement on that trans and it can carry the load with some what reasonable durability,..but still falls far short of a 4l80
     
  11. rkammer

    rkammer Gold Level Contributor

    I definitely agree that the 200 has it over the 700 for the reasons mentioned. And, I wouldn't sell the 200 short behind a healthy BBB. Here's a dyno run of a good friend's '87 Grand National with a 4.1 liter Stage 2 motor. He run's a 2004R with a lockup converter and it holds up fine. The data is on a chassis dyno too.
    IMG_8054.JPG IMG_8055.JPG
     
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  12. '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl

    '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl Well-Known Member

    For me it would be a 200. There are a few quality 200-4r builders out there.

    I chose Janis out of OH. Went with a stage 2 build for my Turbo T. They know how to build a 200. Plus on the highway that OD gear is great to have.

    If you go with a knowledgeable builder & tell them what you have you should have no problem. I’ve never heard of Monster being in that category for the 200’s.

    Kyle
     
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  13. '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl

    '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl Well-Known Member

    Agree to the first few paragraphs. Not so much the second.

    200’s can be build to handle plenty. Reliably. It’s not cheap. But if you know who to use you can sleep well. Not that aftermarket overdrive set-ups are cheap either. People **** on the 200’s, but when built by the right people they’re just fine.

    I’ve been beating on my 200 at 20+P.S.I. for a while now not one issue. Plus good highway cruising RPM’s.

    Kyle
     
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  14. jr_

    jr_ Well-Known Member

    do you run the external lock up with switch?
     
  15. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

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    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

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  17. jr_

    jr_ Well-Known Member

  18. TommyV

    TommyV Well-Known Member

    I can tell you my big block skylark came with a Monster 700R4. It didn't last. overpriced junk! The turbo 400 I had build performs way better.
     
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  19. '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl

    '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl Well-Known Member

    No. for my Turbo T the lock-up is controlled by the chip. I can turn it on or off.

    Kyle
     
  20. '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl

    '72 Skylark Custom 4bbl Well-Known Member

    If you have a 200 core give Janis a call as well to see what they will build ya. Not sure where you're at but want to say it was $500 or so shipped from CO to OH & OH back to CO.

    Kyle
     
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