timing on passenger side

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by thapachuco, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    Good to know thanks Larry.

    I found the wiring diagram for the accel points using the resistor. it's only $9, so i'll wire it with the resistor and if i have problems i'll remove it.
    http://www.jegs.com/InstallationInstructions/100/110/110-2010.pdf

    thanks again for the help. At least i can cross this off the list.
     
  2. mhgs

    mhgs it just takes money !!

    If you bring me the car and leave it for a couple days... I will find the problem......I know it how frustrated you are and I know I can make it better...
     
  3. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    Thanks for offering MHGS!

    Update:
    I put in the new MSD Blaster 2 without resistor and boy what a difference in the idle it made. The engine sounds a lot more steady and the tick it had is a lot less noticeable. Definitely an improvement! Im going to consider an MSD distributor to get better spark and timing performance in the near future.

    I tried spraying carb cleaner around the manifold and i think i may have found a spot near the 1 and 3 cylinder that seems to cause a reaction in the engine. Not sure if its the intake or the head though.

    I think replacing the intake gaskets would be a good start for the gaskets. The gaskets from rock auto are felpro composite gaskets, not metal!


    List of items completed:
    Timing Adjustment 12 Initial 34 Total
    New Distributor Cap
    New Wires
    New Rotor
    New Coil
    New Spark Plugs
    Radiator Flush
    Rebuilt Carb
    Compression test
     
  4. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    Carburetor heat shield is in the mail :grin:
     
  5. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Cool, good progress! If you still have the points dist. then just buy a Pertronix points eliminator kit.
     
  6. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    I have the Accel version of the same name.
     
  7. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Cool.
     
  8. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    I finally slapped on the heat shield...

    I think it made the problem worse. The engine shakes about the same, BUT when i put my hands over the mouth of the carb, the idle actually raises! I can bring the mixture needles all the way down to their seats, and the car will still run!

    When i put the car into drive, it almost wants to die, then finally has enough idle to run (without me giving it any gas) with a rough idle.

    Im stuck now, i think the next thing i can do is the intake gaskets with a crap load of sealant.

    Thoughts?
     
  9. mhgs

    mhgs it just takes money !!

    That tells me you have a bad leak at your carb base...when your closing off the carb with your hands you are richening the mixture along with the leak air. That was the thought with the heat shield.... that you might have worn the bottom of the carb base with the heat thus creating that leak,,
     
  10. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    But without the heat shield the carb chokes out quickly and the idle screws really affect the performance.

    Could i put a gasket - heat shield - gasket - then carb?
     
  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I believe that is the way it should be.
     
  12. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    Thanks. Makes sense that another composite gasket between the metal and carb base would create a better seal.

    How would i smooth out the bottom of the carb? Machine shop to level it down?
     
  13. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Why would you have to? If your carburetor base is that uneven or warped, you need another carburetor:)
     
  14. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    According to MHGS the bottom of the carb may be warped from an over heat. Don't have the money for a new carb at the moment.
     
  15. lemmy-67

    lemmy-67 Platinum Level Contributor

    That's the way I installed mine here:

    http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?242604-Q-Jet-Quartet&p=2027835#post2027835



    --- Rochester Q -Jet ---

    --- 1/4" base gasket ---

    --- Steel Plate ---

    --- smiley-channel gasket ---

    --- Intake Manifold ---


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  16. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member


    Well, that may be your problem all along. You may need to use several gaskets to try and seal it.
     
  17. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

  18. lemmy-67

    lemmy-67 Platinum Level Contributor

  19. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  20. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    Only thing is i'm running a Carter on my 340. What material is it made out of? Im assuming its different than regular composite gasket material. Summit racing sells risers but they are metal and i doubt i'd get a good seal.
     

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