*THE BUICK GODS HAVE HELPED ME FIX IT*No lights of any kind. I think my car may burn down too.

Discussion in 'Sparky's corner' started by derek244, Jan 27, 2022.

  1. derek244

    derek244 Gold Level Contributor

    Well I guess go obnoxiously big or go home. :D 20220128_194213.jpg
     
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  2. derek244

    derek244 Gold Level Contributor

    I am now looking closer at my overall ground situation. I do not have anything coming off the negative battery terminal other than the negative cable itself (original one btw) and it just goes directly to the lower alternator bracket. According to this diagram, there should be a smaller ground wire too (?). What the heck.
     

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  3. bostoncat68

    bostoncat68 Platinum Level Contributor

    Yes there should be a 10 or 12? gauge wire from the negative terminal to a screw located down by the radiator core support.
     
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  4. derek244

    derek244 Gold Level Contributor

    I knew I had seen something about that before. Thank you for confirming. I have no idea where that wire would come from, because I just have OEM cable that has absolutely nothing else on it.
     

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  5. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    A 70 GS has no ground off the negative
     
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  6. derek244

    derek244 Gold Level Contributor

    Just have a regular old Skylark, but sure enough there's nothing there. But I wish it was a GS :) . I am sure I could find the answer to my next question by scouring through the 485000 messages on this board, but are there other major grounds that I should be looking at besides the one that I just replaced on the firewall?
     
  7. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    The one off the regulator is the only engine to body ground I know of on a 70.
     
  8. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    What I do. (color codes to you can see how all are tied together)

    Block to frame
    Block to body
    Block to battery
    Battery
    to frame
    Battery to body
    Body
    to frame

    Make sure bumpers have clean contact of bolts and brackets to the frame, important for lights.

    Dash to cluster, headlight switch (especially due to heavy current load), horns to radiator support.

    There is no such thing as too many or too "good" a ground.

    Also having a proper gauge cable for the ground from the battery to the block, and same for the positive cable from the battery to the starter lug.

    If you have poor grounding and bonding, you can have all sorts of problems, from rough running engine, misfires, stalling, lights doing odd things, coming on when they should not, and working "out of sequence".

    That's a good starting place. :)
     
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  9. FLGS400

    FLGS400 Gold Level Contributor

    You could always make an additional ground wire running from the other end of the negative cable mounting point, to the radiator support or right fender (under the hood). Just make it long enough that you can hide it well.
     
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  10. derek244

    derek244 Gold Level Contributor

    Thank you! I think I have some more grounding straps to order
     
  11. derek244

    derek244 Gold Level Contributor

    That is an absolutely fantastic idea.
     
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  12. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    I have seen console shifter cables get stiff and even melt because, after an engine swap, they became the only ground from the engine to the body when the main ground straps were forgotten.
    Patrick
     
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  13. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    on my '72 GS, I have the ground from the battery cable to the front fender, then a ground from the engine to the frame & from the firewall to the engine.
     
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  14. derek244

    derek244 Gold Level Contributor

    This sounds like something I would do. Not the engine swap part, but the forgetting to put the ground straps on part.
     
  15. derek244

    derek244 Gold Level Contributor

    After I repair the broken end on this, it will be repurposed as another ground 20220128_233815.jpg . There's no way I'm going to throw this beauty out.
     
  16. derek244

    derek244 Gold Level Contributor

    Shiny again. 20220129_020915.jpg
     
  17. 1973gs

    1973gs Well-Known Member

    Back in the 70's, I don't recall which years, GM was having problems with the TH350 transmissions bushings. It was determined to be lack of or faulty body grounds.
     
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  18. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    Just attach a heavy ground wire from the tailhousing bolts on the trans. to a good ground on the frame. Clean, shiny & tight is the game. It will more than be sufficient & can't be seen.

    Tom T.
     
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  19. derek244

    derek244 Gold Level Contributor

    I have never had a direct battery to ground on my car. But I imagine that perfectly placed hole in the fender was there for some reason. I sanded the paint off around the hole and put this wire on tonight. It ain't pretty, but I figure it will work fine.
     

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  20. derek244

    derek244 Gold Level Contributor

    My daughter and I went for a cruise tonight after dark. She was amazed to see that the Buick has headlights :)
     

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