TH 400 Install in 70 GS

Discussion in 'Got gears?' started by tminihan, Dec 2, 2018.

  1. tminihan

    tminihan 1970 GS455 Vert - Project

    I had my TH400 rebuilt and now I'm re-installing the unit. I am at the point where I am installing the torque converter to the flexplate. With the torque converter all of the way back it sits about 1/16" from the flexplate. I figured as I tightened the bolts the torque converter would easily slide forward. But it seems as though the flex plate is moving (flexing) in lieu of the torque converter moving forward. Does that seem correct or is the torque converter binding somewhere.
    Thanks, Tom
     
  2. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    Your right.. Something not right.. The TC should move toward FP.. Not the other way
     
  3. tminihan

    tminihan 1970 GS455 Vert - Project

    Thanks Bob. I tried to get a better look - it appears the center of the TC is hitting the center of the flexplate. It's very difficult to see in there but I don't see a gap between the center of the TC and the flexplate to crank mounting bolts. Thanks, Tom
     
  4. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Tq hub goes in the end of the crank, I have seen a couple rare instances where paint will keep it from going in
     
  5. tminihan

    tminihan 1970 GS455 Vert - Project

    Thanks Hugger, I'm separating the transmission now to see if I can measure the OD of the Tq hub and the ID of the crank. Thanks, Tom
     
  6. tminihan

    tminihan 1970 GS455 Vert - Project

    I dropped the tranny, looks like 1.705" OD of the Tq, 1.685" ID of the crank, so it appears the 0.02" difference won't allow the Tq to sit flush against the flexplate. I'm going to take some emory cloth to the Tq - 0.02" doesn't seem like much. Any other ideas? Thanks, Tom
     
  7. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Sometimes just a film of rust on one or both of the components with make it not fit.
     
  8. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Yep, I usually try and remember to sand and lube the hub and crank, most the time I'm in a rush and forget but its certainly best to do so
     
  9. tminihan

    tminihan 1970 GS455 Vert - Project

    I finally got it in by sanding the Tq hub and crank with a Dremel and flexible sanding wheel, and a little grease. Thanks for all of your help.
    Thanks, Tom
     
  10. Utah455

    Utah455 Platinum Level Contributor

    Hey, when you slid the torque converter back onto your transmission, how may clunks does it take to fully seat? Thanks!
     
  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Depends, if you initially line up the notches in the converter snout, then 2 clunks, one for input splines, one for stator splines. If not, then 3. Pump Drive notches, input and stator splines. Once the converter is seated correctly, measuring from the converter mounting to the forward edge of the bell housing should yield a measurement of 1 3/16"

    http://www.tciauto.com/tc/auto-trans-faq#5

    ConverterSeatingMeasurement.JPG
     
  12. Utah455

    Utah455 Platinum Level Contributor

    Thanks Larry!
     

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