Serious click bait. 1970 442 W-30 super low miles

Discussion in 'Cars and Parts For Sale Leads' started by Brian Albrecht, Nov 29, 2020.

  1. BrianTrick

    BrianTrick Brian Trick

    That blue W30 sold for about $125,000.00 at Barret Barret Jackson a few years ago. It then went to an owner of a dealership in Minnesota,and I believe that is who has been trying to sell it lately.
     
  2. mrolds69

    mrolds69 "The Cure"

    That red W-30 was restored by a shop in NH (that's why there's snow on the ground) by a restorer I know. It was owned by somebody I know. It was then sent to BJ's auction and brought the highest $ ever paid for a W car. This was maybe 15-20 years ago. It brought so much $ at the time they made a diecast Matchbox for it. I have an MIB diecast of it around here someplace. True story...
     
  3. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

  4. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    LOL! Good eye,. I am pretty sure the e-brake cable shouldn't be rubbing on the drive shaft. Too funny.
     
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  5. Andrew Sury

    Andrew Sury Well-Known Member

    It actually won't when the tires are on the ground.
     
  6. efogs400

    efogs400 Platinum Level Contributor

    I creep over there once in a while as I am a closeted Oldsmobile fan, they seem like a good group, but agree the ads and pop ups are annoying.
     
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  7. BYoung

    BYoung Stage me

    If the ads are a problem on your phone, the app "Purify" works great for me. It was cheap when I got it, like .99 cents. I went on the Olds site and had no issues with ads or pop ups.
     
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  8. mrolds69

    mrolds69 "The Cure"

    I use ABP, I never see an ad on that Olds site.
     
  9. weim55

    weim55 Well-Known Member

    I read the link at the Oldsmobile site. And interesting quick snapshot of the reality behind a high-end car in the auction and collector world. A little muddy indeed.

    I have a brother that purchased two big money Chevys, 69 L78 Chevelle and a 70 Z28, from a Mecum auction. Both cars from a big name well known “ collector“ in muscle car circles. The Chevelle was advertised as a real L78 with .. “documentation and build sheet“ . The “documentation” was the Current title to the car, yes the Vin number matches the title but that means absolutely nothing past that to verify anything option, model, or history. The “ build sheet“ is indeed a legitimate build sheet from an L 78 Chevelle, But interestingly the parts of the build sheet that contain the Vin number and body number are torn off and missing. Absolutely no other paperwork came with the car. The paperwork cannot even verify the car is a real SS 396 let alone an L 78.

    The Camaro was advertised as a real Z28 With its numbers matching engine. That is a correct statement and the car checked as the real deal and yes, The engine block is the correct numbers matching unit to the car. Also advertised as a no expense spared restoration. One of the most absolute gorgeous paint jobs and body work I have ever seen on a vehicle. Absolute concourse Quality. Under the hood looked Beautiful but almost nothing in visual sight was correct to the car or numbers matching, just shiny re-pop stuff everywhere. Anything that wasn’t in eye shot Is where things got ugly. The car was completely non functional in almost every way. The only thing that car could do was start and drive itself across the block. Engine barely ran, Almost nothing electrical functioned, leaks out of everything, pedal to the floor brakes, maladjusted windows etc. etc. It took a solid month in about five grand to sort that car out not including labor.

    I think it’s pretty obvious both of these Chevys were built to look pretty in a “collectors” row, never to be driven again. And bring the $$ when it was time to dump them into the market. Sad stuff.....

    I guess it just goes to show this auction stuff is all the same whether it’s big game high end or a local farm sale. Buyer beware, and the buyer is 100% on the hook for everything. Do your homework.......

    Steve weim55 Colorado
     
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  10. Brian Albrecht

    Brian Albrecht Classic Reflections

    Would love to know the exact weight of this thing...still has that antique, out of square, boat anchor Olds block to weigh her down.
     
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  11. steve murray

    steve murray Well-Known Member

    Wow !!! Niiiiice work !!
     
  12. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    The experiences above were described more than once when magazines would have a shootout; the Hemi this or LS6 that would struggle to run in the low 14s while the Buicks were in top tune and much quicker.
    Patrick
     
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  13. Brian Albrecht

    Brian Albrecht Classic Reflections

    Yep, that's the story that went with the pictures :)
     
  14. mrolds69

    mrolds69 "The Cure"

    I didn't really know there was a story, Brian. Here's the rest of the story. The restorer at the time was just starting out his biz'. The owner had a lot of $. I don't really remember what it sold for...maybe 165K 20 years ago. It was a record sale for an Olds. After tax and tip, I don't think any $ were made on the car at all. The restorer made the most, because after that car sold he got a ton of biz'. The truth is, it was a bad resto. I saw the car in person. Look at the pics, the stinkbug stance, the wrinkled top, the rear bumper, it was like an amateur resto. The pres of the Olds club in MA sent his car (another red W-30) to be restored there after that car brought so much $. He then took it to the 2010 OCA Nats fresh off the resto. I was there with my 69 442, in the senior class. The Pres says come look at my car (I'm in the club). I look at the car and start pointing out things. Little things, stupid things, but things I know will cost him points. I said go get a screwdriver and I'll flip the headrest locks for you. Go get a wrench, and I'll fix the seat belts. I told him go over to the Fusick booth and buy a rad cap, 2 door lock knobs, 100_0051.JPG and 3 decals, stuff like that. Day before the show, he doesn't want to, it was done by the guy that did the biggest $ W car ever, he's not worried. He got hammered for all that small crap, took silver or something. I left with Senior Preservation. Anyways, that red car in the pics set the pace for Olds W cars at the auctions. After people saw that everybody figured their Olds was a goldmine. What Steve said above is true, many cars glitter at the auctions but they're really not as good as they look under the lights.
     
  15. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    That Camaro sounds like opposite of my Buick GS. It's all original ugly everywhere, but it runs like a top and everything works.
     
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  16. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    I think that's why Dave's (NOM IIRC) GSX did so well several years ago. Besides being a Stage 1 4-sp, the resto was exceptional both at & below the surface.
     
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  17. Brian Albrecht

    Brian Albrecht Classic Reflections

    Any more pics of that beautiful brown '69?
     
  18. Redmanf1

    Redmanf1 Gold Level Contributor

    Dan,
    I think Dave's car was not a stage-1 but was date correct built to mstag-1 specs. Don't remember but I am not sure the trans was original, you would have to ask Dave about that. But I think you are correct, Dave's car was done to the 9's.

    Nelson
     
  19. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    You may be correct Nelson. I remember for what it was wrt the engine (NOM &/or non-Stage) it brought very good $.
     
  20. Brett Slater

    Brett Slater Super Moderator Staff Member

    Dave's was built to Stage 1 specs but born as a GSX 455.
     
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