Old KB C188 cam kit :: cut valve guides??

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Jesse Tackett, Dec 13, 2022.

  1. Jesse Tackett

    Jesse Tackett Well-Known Member

    I purchased an old unused KBC118 cam kit a few years back and am now finally getting to install it. It came with lifters, a set of dual springs, retainers and locks. I was checking the installed height of the valve springs and found out the inner springs hit the valve guide and will not go all the way down against the valves spring seat. Is this normal? I have searched and searched but cannot find anything out about this. I guess the guides will need to be cut, or is that risking cutting into water? Maybe I should just buy another set of springs that fit? Jess in ky
     
  2. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    KB sold a Valve stem cutting tool to cut the valve guides down to fit their springs.
     
  3. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

  4. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    Contact TA performance if you don’t want to cut the guides I’m sure they can set you up with the correct spring
     
  5. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    I had my stk guide cut to accept .500 seals and cut them down for more clearance. I would bet if you find the cutter and correct arbor to fit inside with some brain power to set it up so you could evenly measure the finial height you can do this at home with a good drill and alot of washing after. Cutter and arbor runs under 150
     
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  6. Daves69

    Daves69 Too many cars too work on

    This is what the Kenne Bell spring cutters look like.

    Bought these many years ago to install my springs.

    One of the cutters machines the seat, and the other cuts the guide.



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    Last edited: Dec 14, 2022
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  7. avmechanic

    avmechanic Well-Known Member

    Screenshot 2022-12-15 at 6.28.09 PM.png You can buy the cutter and just cut the guides down yourself with a drill. It is super easy. Most engines I work on I cut the guides to fit modern positive valve guide seals with a cutter. I have a couple of sizes of arbours for the different valve stem diameters and one cutter for 0.500" and one for 0.530" sizes. They are about $100 US for the tools. (I am Canadian) I like the better valve stem seals better anyway and then you can fit your double springs no problem. I have done a couple sets of Buick heads this way.
    Greg
     
  8. Mike B in SC

    Mike B in SC Well-Known Member

    I’ll bet those are the good lifters that came with it, not the junk sold today…
     
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  9. Jesse Tackett

    Jesse Tackett Well-Known Member

    "Contact TA performance if you don’t want to cut the guides I’m sure they can set you up with the correct spring"
    Looks like TA1435A would be the easiest route. Guess I'll have a set of KB dual springs for sale? jt
     

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