I eliminated a slew of shims

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Mark Demko, Aug 28, 2022.

  1. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Just used the spring seats to locate my new springs.
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  2. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    Now it won't sound like a "bill to coin changer" when you over rev it! :D
     
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  3. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    Mark,
    You had locators, plus multiple shims under the TA 1130 super duals?
     
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  4. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    Yeah, it was kinda like total overkill.
     
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  5. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Yes, that’s what the machine shop had put in to get the spring pressure up for my roller cam.
    The machine shop ( not the same one) that did the bigger TA valve install cut the spring seats too low and the step at the base of the guide that locates the spring too narrow, so they used spring seats to locate the springs properly, but that also increased the seat height by .060
    My 1130 springs needed too many shims for proper seat pressure, then they would go into coil bind at full lift:mad:
    Hence the reason for the 1125 455 springs, they’re taller, slightly heavier coils make about 180 seat pressure and 380 full lift, it’s way more than I need but it’s the best I could come up with with my iron heads.
    The engine is gonna have to deal with it :p
     
  6. Stevem

    Stevem Well-Known Member

    If you went with bigger exh valves without seat incerts then the heads will not live with that 180 psi for long since you cut away the factory induction hardening!
     
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  7. Jim Blackwood

    Jim Blackwood Well-Known Member

    It might do fine. This is high nickel content iron after all. It's harder and tougher than Chevy iron.

    Jim
     
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  8. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    I'm confused. Isn't Mark talking about the spring seats and not the valve seats?

    Devon
     
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  9. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Yes the spring seats
     
  10. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Honestly my only concern with the higher than needed spring pressure is noise from the valves being slammed back on their seats.
    The roller cam isn’t radical, but the valve action with rollers is quicker, so I don’t know o_O
    Not so much concerned about the roller lifters, they’re Johnson, not the noisy Morels that I had in the beginning.
     

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