Clutch linkage help

Discussion in 'U-shift em' started by 1936fordturbo, Jul 4, 2013.

  1. 1936fordturbo

    1936fordturbo Well-Known Member

    OK I have a clutch linkage problem that is driving me crazy...... The scenario goes I had a 1-2 shift problem that needed addressed in my 70X. I ask a friend who he had taken his 4 speed transmissions to in the past for rebuilding, this is my first 4 speed car my friend has had several, so I went where he said as he never had any problems. I was asked to bring everything for the transmission- including flywheel, pressure plate, clutch, throw out bearing, shifter and all the shift rods. I received all my stuff back but my original clutch, pressure plate, throw out bearing. When the trans was in the car originally I had no issue with the z bar linkage adjustment. When the trans was installed after the rebuild the linkage had to be adjusted completely to the end of the threads just to get the clutch to disengage and still there is at least 1 inch travel between throw out bearing and pressure plate. Has anyone seen this before? Is the clutch wrong or throw out bearing? HELP

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  2. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    So the throw out bearing is new? I may be thicker than the other. Order a Lakewood adjusable pivot ball from Jegs.
     
  3. 1936fordturbo

    1936fordturbo Well-Known Member

    If anything I think I would need a thicker bearing to take up extra space between pressure plate an bearing.
     
  4. SpecialWagon65

    SpecialWagon65 Ted Nagel

    This is a little like my problem. I tried a longer throw out with minimal results. I had to dig out my old clutch fork, which solved my problem. Do you have the bushing for the eye in your third picture? Mike Garrison sells those.
    ted
     
  5. 1936fordturbo

    1936fordturbo Well-Known Member

    I do have the bushing, but I would like to replace it. Where can I buy one?
     
  6. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    If you have a new clutch and pressure plate you must also consider where the fingers are oriented in space relative to your old set up.

    If we are taking the same bearing, it is the same as used in some older Vettes.
     
  7. 1936fordturbo

    1936fordturbo Well-Known Member

    That is what I thought as well. The one installed after trans rebuild is a Hays. so I ordered a Centerforce to compare and measurements are the same. I think I still have my original clutch fork, but I am not sure. The one photo shows a measurement. Does you have one to compare?
     
  8. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Lets think about this logically. If the old pressure plate, T/O bearing and disc worked and the new parts don't, guess what? The parts he sold you are wrong.
     
  9. 1936fordturbo

    1936fordturbo Well-Known Member

    That is what I thought as well. The one installed after trans rebuild is a Hays. so I ordered a Centerforce to compare and measurements are the same. I think I still have my original clutch fork, but I am not sure. The one photo shows a measurement. Does you have one to compare?
     
  10. clutchracer

    clutchracer Well-Known Member

    Mine is all apart as we speak. Anywhere near Cleveland or Bath Oh.? More than welcome to come take a look or I could confirm at a later date.
     
  11. 1936fordturbo

    1936fordturbo Well-Known Member

    I am near Brunswick so we are close.

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    Can you give me measurement of fork to compare to my photo?
     
  12. sky64

    sky64 bill merrick- RIP

    Pressure plate deepth is your issue.

    Traditionally Gm used two types of diaphram PP's.the bent finger was the high performance version and is used with the T.O. you now have.the straight finger plate is std performance and takes a deeper T.O..this sounds like your quandry.w/o more pix it's hard to say for sure.Bill
     
  13. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    I do, but Im in Utah at the moment. I'll be back home this weekend
     
  14. Clanceman427

    Clanceman427 Hardtops need not apply

    was the clutch fork changed by that guy? I know you need a Buick clutch fork as opposed to the Chevy design that is available everywhere. Perhaps the guy swapped in an incorrect fork.
     
  15. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    He better not have! An original GM BBB Clevis pin style clutch fork is big bucks!
     
  16. 1936fordturbo

    1936fordturbo Well-Known Member

    I am almost certain this is the original clutch fork, or at least the one that was in the car prior to the rebuild.

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  17. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    That's the right one. Nice piece! That's $500 right there
     
  18. Clanceman427

    Clanceman427 Hardtops need not apply

    Whew good news!
     
  19. 1936fordturbo

    1936fordturbo Well-Known Member

    Is there any differences with pressure plates? As far as depth from clutch surface to fingers.
     
  20. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    I think Bill hit it on the head. Wrong PP. Probably has the bent fingers for use with the taller TO bearing
     

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