Blower Intake 455

Discussion in 'Race 400/430/455' started by ronbz455, Jul 26, 2014.

  1. ronbz455

    ronbz455 Big Butz Racing

    I have a chance of a Blower intake for a 455. I have never built a Blower 455 engine so I was wondering if this intake is a good start. Here are some pics so you Blower guys let me know. Thanks Ron. For some unknown reason the pics won't load so I can send them on PM I hope.
     
  2. JESUPERCAT

    JESUPERCAT No Slow Boat

    Ron send the pictures to my email and I'll take a look.
    What brand intake is it?
     
  3. ronbz455

    ronbz455 Big Butz Racing

    PM your email I will send them
     
  4. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    IMO a waste of money, roots blowers are good for cruise ins thats about it, turbo or centrifugal are much more efficient
     
  5. alan

    alan High-tech Dinosaur

    May be, but Rod has done well with his.


    And they look cool! :grin:
     
  6. ronbz455

    ronbz455 Big Butz Racing

    That's what I'm thinking. You pull up to the line with a 671 strapped down and ready to do business! Then they say "This is a Buick!" I just see fun if I can afford it. Look at Bob Mackley. That car was on it! I just found another Buick on PassTime I will post it on all Buick Muscle, Facebook.
     
  7. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    definitely cool no question there , what Rod has is a wayyy different animal than boltn a 8-71 on a 500hp engine, those big blowers use 100hp just to turn , the new screw blowers on the other hand are as awesome as you can get but at around $14k they just for the big boys
     
  8. ronbz455

    ronbz455 Big Butz Racing

  9. pmuller9

    pmuller9 Well-Known Member

    Will the blower engine be for the street or strip or both?

    I'm assuming you are building with the stock iron block?

    Paul
     
  10. ronbz455

    ronbz455 Big Butz Racing

    I would love to drive it on the street but if I can't just drag racing.
    The block will have to have a girdle on it.
     
  11. pmuller9

    pmuller9 Well-Known Member

    The reason I asked is; if you are racing only then injected methanol works really well with a roots type supercharger.
    We inject from the top (because of the our class rules) and the blower stays cold.

    Yes you can definitely drive it on the street with pump gas then switch to racing gas for the track.
    If you use a good flowing head with lots of attention to the exhaust side, 8 lbs of boost will get you all the power you need for the street.

    I had real problems finding a 455 block that would pass sonic testing for a turbo application.
    Cylinder walls are real thin on the sides between cylinders. At the request of the owner I sleeved the block down to 4.185" and had Diamond (By way of Jim Weise) make a set of custom 8:1 compression pistons.

    I suggest starting with a good thick wall 430 block.

    Paul
     
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2014
  12. ronbz455

    ronbz455 Big Butz Racing

    I have a 75 block and 455 blocks are getting hard to find since I have been looking for my .030 build of my old 10 second build pistons and rod combo. Then I heard of this intake and said instead if this piece of aluminum being a paper weight why don't I try to do something that I have wanted to do all my life. Build a Buick 455 with a blower and it works! Pontiac aftermarket rods I think it will last for a while right?
     
  13. pmuller9

    pmuller9 Well-Known Member

    Yes Pontiac rods will work.
    Do you already have rods and pistons?

    What brand blower intake manifold?

    75 and 76 blocks don't always have good wall thickness.

    Here is a 76 block I had tested. Notice cylinders #4 and #6

    Sonic Test 76 Block.jpg
     
  14. ronbz455

    ronbz455 Big Butz Racing

    Looks like they are a little off center. I just tried to pull Bob Mackly you tube run and it's not there. Do you know why he pulled it?
     
  15. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Bobb's black car is Procharched, if that is the car your referring too, Prob a F1
     
  16. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  17. Todd69GS

    Todd69GS Silver Level contributor

    Bobb's car was on a super soft tune for the Pass Time episode. The track was iffy at best. He runs an F2.
    Street duty would be ok for a mild blower setup but the threshold for the stock block comes really quick with a blower.
     
  18. ronbz455

    ronbz455 Big Butz Racing

    I haven't even bought the intake yet. I'm just tossing around the ideal. So the 70 forged pistons would be to much compression or can you use different pulleys to slow the blower down?
     
  19. pmuller9

    pmuller9 Well-Known Member

    The blower drive ratio determines the horsepower so the question becomes: How much power do you want?
    A 6-71 small diameter blower on a 462 cid will be overdriven by 15% to give you 7-8 psi of boost

    Blown gas engines using roots type superchargers heat the intake air a lot so low compression ratios help keep detonation under control.
    It is not uncommon to have static compression ratios around 7.5:1 when using the smaller street cams.

    Here is a handy chart for a rough guideline for blown street application

    Compression-Ratio.jpg
     
  20. pmuller9

    pmuller9 Well-Known Member

    Ron

    Is there any way to gets some pics of the intake you are looking at?

    Hampton will supply you with a complete set-up and has the best price.

    Here is what Jim Weise just posted about blocks for blown application.

    http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.p...d-live-to-tell-about-it&p=2357746#post2357746

    Paul
     

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