Bill Burton "WildBill"

Mike
Appreciate your comments and I will contact Bill directly and see if I can get a response. I have several cars in different stages of resoration and it seems I can't finish any of them. The 67 is close to completion altho I've been saying that for 6 months.
I do not intend to post any other comments in regard to this situation and hopefully it will be resolved.
Rod

 

Good deal... I'm sure Bill will work this out. Everyone is entitled to a mistake or misunderstanding. Again, good luck..

Mike

Iggycat

NJ

 

No.....WildBill will not work this one out.....you all don't realize how wrong mr "i can't write" is......and now he say's....well....what's that guy's name and # ?.....i did'nt even want the tach.....sir, you are so full of BS.

Take me to court....

I'm done with this and i will not post again in ths thread.....look for my parts on BPG.com......not you Rod ! :grin:


Peace WildBill

p.s.....let all not forget....i offered him a a full refund of $400 plus SHIPPING if he would just send back the console.....FedEX insured for $400...just as i had sent it to him.....he did not do that....he never said he wanted to have me start a damage claim to FedEx....when that happens,they keep what was "damaged" and pay the claim......he did not want that...as he stated.....he wanted a $100 "adustment" from me for FedEx's shipping damage......WTF ou: ...Rod,go ahead and post up a copy of my e-mai to you of the refund offer.......then all you in V8 land decide :3gears:

 

Nevermind,i will do it myself........

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Please return the console and i will refund your all your money plus FedEx shipping....console was sold as is....resolution of my pictures i sent was high so you could zoom in on you computer and see details......i sent it in a box that should have prevented any damage in shipment....don't know anything about texture of base...that is the only console like that i have ever had....why did you not contact me as soon as you saw the damage? you have had it like a week now?.....that indicates rough handling by FedEx or one of it's contracted carriers...i may need to make a claim.


Peace WB

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That is the e-mail is'nt it R?...minus my address....correct R ?
He replied and here is my reply to him...Rod, you can fill it in for them if you want with your e-mails....




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Just send it back.....you will get your $$...it was'nt cracked when i sent it...it's been fine for years...that's one of the sturdiest boxes i've sent something like that in ever before......i will deal with FedEx on my end...i have a good working relationship with the local hub personel...as far as the texture.....there may be ones that have and the early ones that do no have it...check my inquiry post on V8Buick......i took it to the hub in a 03 grand am....what do you drive???....please re-pack as sent and send it back FedEX insured for $400.00 as i sent it to you and i will return your $$ when it arrives.....



Peace WB

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Now....i am done :rant:




Peace Now !

 

About the first post on this thread that makes sense.

Guy complains about a transaction, guy is comparatively new to the board vs. the guy he is complaining about, entire board turns on newer guy.

Everyone is ready to take sides when all the information isn't out. I'm not knocking WildBill and taking sides with the other guy, in fact WildBill is about the only one who says that the entire PM exchange needs posted.

I think we need to mellow out a bit on the knee jerk reaction. Only WildBill and Rod know the whole story. This isn't exactly like the last $100 thread that we went through where ALL the facts were laid out complete with posts outlining the process from the offender.

That being said, I wouldn't have any hesitation buying from WildBill. From his last post it sounds like he was more than willing to refund the purchase with a return, he just wasn't going to send the guy $100 and call it good.

 

I've spent more time than I want on this and again don't care to post again but since some want to see the emails exchanged I am posting below.
I couldn't return console as Bill requested as he would not be able to make claim as against FedEx once I returned it. I was aware of this from my experience of buying part/supplies for years on internet. Once kept gallon of paint which had opened in shipment in my office for 3 weeks waiting for FedEx to adjust with shipper.
I am not assailing Bill's character as this is my first dealing with him. But if another on this board had an experience such as this I would like to be made aware so that I could make an informed decision about whether to go thru with transaction. I am not suggesting that anyone not do business with Bill but if it goes south this is simply an example of what may happen.
I'm disappointed Bill doesn't want to give me the name of the guy interested in tach and not sure why he wouldn't.
This will be my last post on subject and wouldnn't have posted but for the post by Bill and the response.
I think I've posted the entire exchange between Bill and myself as it relates to this transaction and now you can indeed judge for yourself. I didn't post intially because I thought this would be handled and no need to burden board with additional posting.
The first message is the last from me to Bill. It was sent 8/25 early morning. After this exchange the next I heard from Bill was the message at the beginning of this post. Following is the email exchange:

[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']I will not be able to get boxed up for several days. If you would give me a $100 credit for broken plastic I would call it even and if you want plastic base sent back I could do so. By the time we mess with all the shipping expense and time it will be more than that involved.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>[/FONT]
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[FONT='Tahoma','sans-serif']From:[/FONT][FONT='Tahoma','sans-serif'] WILDCATGS455@aol.com [mailto:WILDCATGS455@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:48 AM
To: COOK, ROD
Subject: Re: 67 console<o></o>[/FONT]
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[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']I get my pension money this weekend....get that out to me today and your funds will be on the way back by Saturday.Don't worry about a claim.....just get it on the way<o></o>[/FONT]
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[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Peace <o></o>[/FONT]
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[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']In a message dated 8/24/2009 1:36:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, COOKR@oge.com writes:<o></o>[/FONT]
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']To answer your questions-I received the package Mon or Tuesday of last week. Had to bring pickup as my car too small for box. Took it home on Friday. Opened it on Saturdaytook it out of box on Sunday and discovered the damage. Also went back to photos and with zoom could never identify that the console not with original grain in plastic. No close-ups of plastic base and dont believe the side with crack is shown.<o></o>[/FONT]
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']I did contact you as soon as I saw damage. The box I have retained as well as packing materials except for paper which console was packed in. My experience with Fed Ex is that they will want to inspect packing and product for claim. If I ship it back to you I do not think claim can be made. It will be several days before I could get it packed and returned. <o></o>[/FONT]
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']Let me know about claim process and how you want to proceed. <o></o>[/FONT]
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']Rod<o></o>[/FONT]
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[FONT='Tahoma','sans-serif']:[/FONT][FONT='Tahoma','sans-serif'] WILDCATGS455@aol.com [mailto:WILDCATGS455@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:24 AM
To: COOK, ROD
Subject: Re: 67 console<o></o>[/FONT]
<o> </o>
[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Please return the console and i will refund your all your money plus FedEx shipping....console was sold as is....resolution of my pictures i sent was high so you could zoom in on you computer and see details......i sent it in a box that should have prevented any damage in shipment....don't know anything about texture of base...that is the only console like that i have ever had....why did you not contact me as soon as you saw the damage? you have had it like a week now?.....that indicates rough handling by FedEx or one of it's contracted carriers...i may need to make a claim.<o></o>[/FONT]
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[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Bill Burton<o></o>[/FONT]
[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']4146 east 100 north<o></o>[/FONT]
[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Kokomo IN 46901 <o></o>[/FONT]
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[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Peace<o></o>[/FONT]
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[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']In a message dated 8/24/2009 10:14:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, COOKR@oge.com writes:<o></o>[/FONT]
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']Received consoleunfortunately the plastic base has about 10 inch crack/separation. I could see where repair attempted and cracked in same spot. Also the base is not original and not sure what was done. The finish on what I received was smooth whereas original had a pattern in plastic. Perhaps when repair made they sanded/somehow they made smooth. The base is not salvageable. The pot metal was pretty much as you described. Would like an adjustment on amount paid and would be happy to return plastic base or take photos. Let me know.<o></o>[/FONT]
[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']Rod <o></o>[/FONT]
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It looks like this thread is ending right here.....:TU: !!!

 

Bill offered to refund all your $$$,why didnt you ship it back? o No:

Those consoles are rare & i understand why Bill would rather have it back,even with the damage, than have fed-ex pay him & toss the part away.

 

Just wanted to say thanks for the parts I just bought from you.Just as you described them.Would deal with you anytime.
Gary Mellin:TU:

 

Offer of a full refund plus shipping is all anyone could ask for.

 

Erik, I think that's a little out of line. ou:

Now that's class!!!! :bglasses: (both you guys) :beer :TU:

 

It appears to me that this thread has run its course and further public discussion is not going to serve any useful purpose. If either party has good reason to add more info, please send me a Private Message with details.