And so it begins....Your Musclecar just became a Model T

Discussion in 'The "Other" Bench' started by Tom Miller, Aug 31, 2005.

  1. Dave H

    Dave H Well-Known Member

    I hope people are realizing that the hybrid thing is a joke. Should be about time to start replacing some of those battery paks. Understand it's upwards of 2k?

    I think liquification of coal will probably get another shot in the arm once the prices get a little higher. Unfortunately, the gov't will adjust the price upwards via taxing. If they'd use that tax for research in the area, it'd almost be tolerable. But they won't. Pork comes first.........
     
  2. GSX-PKV

    GSX-PKV registered user

    I read a book by NBC's Tom Brokaw "The Greatest Generation". It's about the commitment and sacrifice of the WW2 generation. If our generation were alive back then, I wonder if we could have made... or be willing to make the same sacrifices!

    Come on, this is a national & natural disaster that we will survive and be stronger for. Thank God there was no web message boards in WW2 or we probably would have surrendered before we started as soon as we heard there would be gas rationing.

    Let's set our goals high. Aim to succeed in this, and in life and you have a real chance to achieve those goals. If you set your goals low...you will achieve those for sure!

    Let's all pitch in and help those victims (not refugees-they are victims) of this terrible disaster! I think this is how 99.9% of Musclecar folks and all Americans feel and will act. I have a lot of faith in all of us!

    Just my 2. Paul
     
  3. oPh

    oPh Well-Known Member

    The main reason any state would try & raise tax on gasoline & diesel, is to try & raise their taxes to level of surrounding states, due to a perceived need that one's state's roads & bridges are falling apart. Most states gas taxs go to road & bridge maintainance & construction.

    The argument often given, is such a state is always on the giving end of Federal dollars for road construction (aren't most states??) ... thus it is hard to keep major roads up to snuff. Combine that with several major interstates going through such a state, a ton of NAFTA traffic, not good.

    My argument with state of Oklahoma raising gas taxs, is for the most part Okla DOT has had reputation of building poor quality interstates, & there has been a lot of graft & corruption over the years in OK road building. Roads could have been built better with the money alotted. IMO, voting in higher road taxes will only increase construction of more mediocre quality roads. No thanks.

    :3gears:
    Roger
     
  4. Canuck

    Canuck Muscle Cars Forever

    Our toys

    Saw the program "Rides" on Tuesday and they were building a 1929 Ford Pickup for the Miller Welder company. There is s company that builds 500 Ford metal bodies a year for the hobby. So the Model T and a fords are not dying out, so neither should our Muscle cars.
    Europeans have been paying $5.00 a gallon for gas for some time now and they have a heaalty car hobby and they drive their old cars more that we do. They have a huge meet in sweden annually and everybody drives to it-- at $5.00 per gallon.
     
  5. sawblade

    sawblade Buick Crazy

    Yea,what he said :TU:
     
  6. Pontiacpete

    Pontiacpete Active Member


    ....8 dollars a gallon :shock: Let us hope it never happens while I walk this earth :rant:
     
  7. Tom Miller

    Tom Miller Old car enthusiast

    As a man sit and thinketh.................................

    Got a chuckle re-reading Noels post about crude selling at $40/barrell. That seems like a million years ago.:ball:
     
  8. bob k. mando

    bob k. mando Guest

    Got a chuckle re-reading Noels post about crude selling at $40/barrell.

    how high do you think oil will have to go before the US will permit profitable economic activity ( drilling ) to take place within it's borders again?
     
  9. pegleg

    pegleg Well-Known Member

    How much do you want to give to Algore and the Clinton War machine?:TU:
     
  10. Dave H

    Dave H Well-Known Member

    Give? Seems to me they referred to taxes when they were in power before as "contributions". Try not "contributing". They've already stated that they know better how to spend your money than you do for the overall good of the people. What does that sound like? With their aspirations for global power and control, there's plenty of uses for your money that they'll need to finance. Guess from who?

    Get ready to bend over for quite a few years......again. :(

    Using our own resources to reduce dependability on foreign oil doesn't fit into that equation.
     
  11. Brian Stefina

    Brian Stefina Well-Known Member

    You know....I almost think it's a strategic thing. Use the other guy's oil first then when it's depleted we have our own.:Do No:

    Just a year ago with, fuel being high, I drove to Massilon Ohio to pick up a frame.

    Anyway, there were oil pumps everywhere.......and not a one pumping.

    I see wells aound Mi.........rarely see them pumping.

    If those wells were dry, they would get the scrap money out of the equipment. Hmmmm lets see at $180 a ton an oil well pump would be....
     
  12. pegleg

    pegleg Well-Known Member

    Brian,
    Not that it matters awhole lot, but if you're talking Ohio those are mostly natural gas wells. Think Coal, and that industry is one of the "silent Giants" in the economy of the state. They must not need the gas , or didn't last year. I had a friend whose family tried to claim the mineral (including natural gas) rights under their farm. East Ohio Gas won, they got zip. :mad: If you let them drill on your property you get about 1% of the value of whatever they pump out. If you don't allow them they'll go to your neighbor and sink the well on an angle UNDER your property, still get the gas and you get nozink!:Do No:
     
  13. Brian Stefina

    Brian Stefina Well-Known Member

    Makes sense:TU:

    I still think as a strategy we are not using our supplies for that "rainy" day.:Do No:
     
  14. Pace Car Seeker

    Pace Car Seeker Smokin' Tires Baby

    I run twin 330 hp 454's in my Silverton, the Big lake is only 3 miles away (Balsam Lake) and the biggest (Lake Simcoe) is 15 miles away.....I'm good..:bglasses:
     
  15. Dave H

    Dave H Well-Known Member

    One of my friends at Ford lived in Gilbraltar on the water and had a big boat like that with twin 454 Chevies. They used to get all drunked up and see how quickly they could get to Putin bay (sp?). One time on the way back he did something to one of them and shut it down. He had quite a time trying to keep it straight with only one engine.

    A local oil company bought a piece of property directly across I-275 from our subdivision just North of 8 mile. That was in Farmington Hills. The way they do it is to sink an exploratory well to see if there's oil there, then very slickly use that existing well to expand upon it as an "addition". One of my neighbors owned that oil company. Their plan was to drill down, then under the freeway horizontally right under our property to get at it. Farmington had already issued the permit to proceed with the "test" well, but the residents got together and stopped it entirely in court. The permit was voided and the neighbor moved away.

    So......they bought another piece of property just South of 8 mile on the West side of I-275 and are proceeding to do it there. It's less than 1 mile South of the initial place, but that's Livonia and they had no problems getting the permit. Nice.
     

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