71X Documents

I know there was also someone named Bayliss from Lynn MA , will check on that also

 

Same car

 

Bill owned or owns the Bayberry Buick Farm. I have not heard from Bill in a long time.

 

Yes Bill lived in Bolton, had a garage there for years. He's in Vermont now. I looked at this car several years ago, and if i recall correctly he did buy this one in Lynn. I'm convinced that this is a legitimate GSX , just not sure if it was a 350 or 455 originally.

 

Morning,my name is pete,owner of this X. Here's the skinny on this car. I bought this from Bill Bayview,he bought it from glen long in Lynn,mass. Glen bought it back in the early 80's just out of high school some where in n.h. Glen believes he bought an X at that time. So did Bill. So do I. It came to me with no motor so I found a 71 455 and built it to stage specs.. Bored 030 over and all components fresh. Other than the motor.car has numbers match tranny.and all the correct parts and pieces to be a real X. The 3 year resto was costly as you all no and the attention to detail is 2nd to none. This car run,sounds and goes great. It may or may not be a BB car, I don't know, but it is probably an X. A very nice one at that.

 

Are you speaking of the owners or owner prior to Glen long ,Glen bought it in the early 80's

 

Yes my friend just verified the guys name is Glenn Long. He owned it for many years in Lynn Ma. He know drives a 2016 scat pack Challenger and is out of the Buick scene. This is the car I am talking about and is believed to be a 350 4 speed 1971 GSX.
Peter you seem to have all of this info but still let people like myself do the research for you ? Every time we bring up new info you want to clear the air with updates. Just lay it all out there and be done with it. You have a restored GSX and you upgraded the engine to a 455. I believe the original 350 numbers engine to this one is long gone by know but you could look for it and try to sell it with the car. A blue GSX sold recently with a 455 and the new owner just picked up the original 350 motor and tranny from Pat Harmon a member here. Stranger things have happened. Were are a very tight community and stick together with our Buick's . We are a lot tougher on originality than some of the Chevy , Mopar or Ford guys.

 

It's all on the table,i see buick followers are real loyal to these cars,no doubt. Who really knows what it was born with ,i wish I knew. I really do.

 

Just got a message back from my buddy. We both had multiple GS's at the time we went and looked at Glenn Longs car and we were trying to cut a deal to buy it. We had more than we needed but we were going halves on this car because even back then we new the value of a real GSX. After checking out the car multiple times we were pretty convinced it was a true 1971 GSX 350 4 speed car. Took awhile to go through the car and contact any resources we had at the time. The car had a 350 motor in it at the time and had all ready been repainted ( stripes were not correct , they were too wide , almost like the painter just winged it and did not use stencils etc. ) This was about 30 years ago but I always remember that car as the one that got away.

 

Post some pictures before the restoration and during. There are multiple GS Guy's here that can tell you the difference between a big block and a small block Buick and what the car was born with. I would bet you have a real GSX which is 1 of 124 and very rare .

 

cheers Pete , Frame numbers can solve the 350/455 debate. they are on the drivers side near the tailpipe exit in the back BA code 1237139 is big block I think CR is the small block code part number starts with 399 .also a quick check is to pull down the gas door. small block cars have 2 oval holes in the frame big blocks have two oval holes and two round holes.Have you dropped the tank for a build sheet,maybe under the carpet if it is the original and also check the drivers windshield pillar from under the dash. good luck

 

Pictures of the car before and during resto are hard copies in a binder for show. Do you think a motor went with the car from glen to bill? It came to me without motor. I would like the original motor for sure. No matter what it was.

 

Pete, nice restoration on the car. Glad it ended up out of the shop and into someone's hands that completed it. If you perform a search on this board using the VIN number, body number, 1971 GSX Cortez Gold, or Bill Bayliss GSX (any combination), you will find several discussions about this (your) car, spanning multiple years. I think there may even be a discussion over on the BPG board (???). I do recall one discussion in which a forum member confirmed the frame number as a SMALL BLOCK frame. There was a thread (either the old BPG board or here) where a member posted numerous pictures of the car in Bill's shop... and I believe one was the frame number... There were more discussions about this car... however, some were lost with forum changes, hackings, and so on.
I believe I recently posted several links in a thread about this car a month or so ago?

 

Pete are you keeping the car ? Did you restore it to resell it ? Probably should have got these questions answered before you bought it. The value is what someone is willing to pay for it. You could compare it to the Blue GSX that just sold with a 455 and originally a small block car. Not sure if the overall quality of the restoration is any different on the two cars though . However you should advertise it as what it is and ask for the money you need to get for it. You had it listed on ebay as a 1971 GSX 455 Stage One car and that is very misleading to any interested parties.

 

I never said it had a matching number motor. If someone asked my reply was always its not. Other than the motor I think we can all agree its probably an X. Regarding info before I bought it,i thought Bill b was the buick guru and took his word for it being an X. My fault for not thinking paperwork was so important. I restored the car because I love the hobby and after doing 6 cars I wanted one that was real special and No one had one. Issues have come up to force the sale,but I cant give it away. What I bought it for and the 30-35k I put in I would like to get back,labor is a love doing it thing. Interested parties call with any ?'s. Glad to answer them. THANK YOU ALL.

 

The frame number is like Hayes 2399. Small block . Who really knows what it was born with? The factory did weird things back then. If you bought the car with no motor ,what would most guys put in.?

 

It does have the BB steering knuckle with manual steering. Built to go fast maybe. I don't know.

 

If the car sold for your reserve price on Ebay or at Mecum , we would not even be having this discussion. Everyone has spent enough time on this and we all have told you the same thing IT IS A 350 CAR . You bought it to restore it and cash in. You are not a Buick guy you are a Chevy guy. All of your wording is misleading to the uneducated buyer. What did you hope to get here for info ? Except it for what it is . You really think someone went to all the trouble to pull the Stage One 455 and drop in a 350 ? Oh ya that happens all the time. I told you we looked at the car 30 years ago and it had a 350 in it then. My patience has worn out. You come on here fishing for a buyer. I cant believe all the posts you have and everyone told you the same thing.

 

Thank you for your help,most appreciated. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers,not what I intended to do. Just looking to prove it was an X.