69 special deluxe stock value

Discussion in 'Cars and Parts For Sale Leads' started by gggvan, Mar 20, 2018.

  1. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    Not sure what you do, can you trade your skills? What you need done is a fair amount of labor but isn’t that hard for someone who’s done it before. Ask around!
    Patrick
     
  2. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member


    Mig welder, torch set and some grinders... what else?? ws
     
  3. gggvan

    gggvan Well-Known Member

    not likely, i'm in a rather specialized area of IT/Business Analysis. We have 2 other cars and a 2 car garage.
     
  4. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    Hell. make a set for the front too and build a BUASH BETROPOLITAN... Hmmm ws


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  5. Hawken

    Hawken Hawken

    Frankly, considering the stock (appearing) pics of the car, putting a Buick drivetrain in would probably keep the value up (best option to recoup resale value) as it's like that:
    A. you will not recoup close to the cost of buying and installing (really, converting) to a SBC; and
    B. your likely future Buyer who will pay a higher price for such a "stock configured" Buick (with a 350 SBB) is very likely a Buick (or Olds) person.

    From theone pic you've provided, your car does look to be in good condition - but that's one 20 ft pic. There are running 350 cid Buick engines advertised on this Boeard with some degree of frequency and even a NOS longblock or two has showed up from time-to-time (a couple of 'em in the last two years). I may have missed this info, but does your car have a 350 now? Or, 250 6cyl.?

    One thing really going in your favor if your looking for a 350 SBB, is that there are far more Buick Owners pulling out good running (both original and rebuilt) 350s in order to swap in 455BBBs. Which means, there are 350 SBBs out there. I've even seen ads with Sellers claiming they swapped 350s to 455s years ago and kept the running/driving 350 SBB in the garage int storage and are selling it now. That would be right up your alley.
     
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  6. gggvan

    gggvan Well-Known Member

    Thank you. I will add some other pics tomorrow. A little info, it has rally rims, original and refurbished. Original V8 350 2bbl engine/tranny. Factory AC.

    My initial gut response to my mechanic was that keeping it stock GM 350 would be a better value in the long run. I can't see a person interested in the car in the first place, wanting to open the hood and see plastic covers, fuel rails, EI module etc.
     
  7. gggvan

    gggvan Well-Known Member

  8. Hawken

    Hawken Hawken

    As far as modern driveability improvements on older cars/equipment .... disc brakes and a simple electronic ignition conversion kit ($129 - $150 and fits under the stock distributor cap, i.e., looks totally stock) makes a world of difference and instantly makes it totally driveable in today's traffic. I can't overstate this aspect enough ... you'd be shocked how these two modifications really bring the driveability forward 30 or 40 years. The Parts Place now sells a reproduction right outside rearview mirror which helps with the realities of modern driving as well ('68-'69 outside mirrors are unique).

    The Jegs/ATK rebuilt engine is one almost "turn key" solution in that it's a totally rebuilt long block and you already have the items to finish it (front engine cover, valve covers, intake, carb, distributor, oil pan, etc.) which can be transferred over from the old engine to the rebuilt one really easily .... the front engine cover and oil pump may be items you want to buy nnew as replacements or find NOS or lightly used parts. You said there were oiling problems with the current engine, so a new front engine cover is probably a good idea as this id where the oil pump is. And, of course a warranty.

    Also, I believe Jegs and it main competitor, Summit Racing Parts, have sales at certain times of the year ... and may price-match. ATK Engine Buiders is a national engine rebuilding company (ironically with a location about 25 miles from me), so call them directly or look on line for direct pricing.

    I've seen "take out" 350 SBBs in the $500 range here on this Board. Of course, the installation costs are there anyway you choose to go and going with the 350 SBC might cost a little extra for install for some of the conversion issues (wiring, bracketry (PS & A/C, if equipped), transmission adapter plate (Chev. transmissions have a different bolt pattern than the Buick-Olds-Pontiace transmissions), exhaust pipe conversion. These extras will not be present with the 350 SBB. And, again, you'll maintain the most of your originality and likely preserve as much as possible with your investment. You should also consider looking into the Buick Club of America where there will be additional Buick purists and that may ultimately provide you with a market to sell and some examples (of resale) of really nice, clean original/original looking Special Deluxes & Skylarks ...
     
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  9. buicksWILD

    buicksWILD Well-Known Member

    Hawken's is right. I forgot about the transmission bolt patterns on the blocks.
     
  10. quickstage1

    quickstage1 Well-Known Member

    I don't know about their Buick 350's but I ordered the Vortec 350 directly from ATK for my son's El Camino earlier this year to replace the worn out 305 and we are very happy with it and the guys I talked to on the phone at ATK were great. At the time they had a sale going on and they paid the tax and free shipping. Check out their website or give them a call.

    Ken
     
  11. sbrmd

    sbrmd Well-Known Member

    I pulled the stock 58k 350-4, which ran perfectly, out of my '71 LeSabre several years ago in favor of my Trishield 462, which I had Jim W. do from a '75 Electra. Sold the 350 to a boardmember here for , I don't remember, $300-$400. This scenario comes up semi-frequently here, as pointed out above. Installation would cost more than the engine, but total cost would be less than rebuilding the original engine.
     
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  12. gsdave

    gsdave FAST WITH CLASS

    Gary, Soo are you selling or keeping the car??? If you are unable to perform the engine swap and have to pay someone to do it. You would be money ahead to sell as is. But without some additional pics the value is hard to say. If you have a solid car getting a fair price for a roller is not that difficult. There is alot of rusty trash out there that people are trying to get 3-5 grand out of junk that needs almost every body panel repaired or replaced plus paint... Again good pics will help.
     
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  13. Hawken

    Hawken Hawken

    It looks like the color is 'Champagne' ... a very flattering color on that Stepchild body style ... and the fender skirts also look very nice.
     
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  14. gggvan

    gggvan Well-Known Member

    I found the metal plate with the options choosen for the car stuck in the truck area. The paint checked was Desert or Sand can't exactly remember. The paint guy was able to get a color code match to duplicate it.
     
  15. gggvan

    gggvan Well-Known Member

    [QUOTE="Hawken, post: 3118324, member: 15169"Stepchild body style".[/QUOTE]

    more like a lesser known child who likes to keep it simple.
     
  16. gggvan

    gggvan Well-Known Member

    pics...
     

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  17. Hawken

    Hawken Hawken

    Nice original example. This car could easily be made "modernly" driveable and just enjoy driving around New England.
     
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  18. Dennis S

    Dennis S Well-Known Member

    A reasonable priced sbb Buick would the simplest I would think as the others said . If your looking ease and no layout since you have to buy a motor and pay for labor. Just sell it as a roller it looks straight enough. A post car makes a great race car Or street street sleeper. I could picture it with a BBB and dog dishes .
     
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  19. gggvan

    gggvan Well-Known Member

    Ok, it's been a while.

    Now how much is worth?

    Rebuilt stock 350 engine
    Rebuilt transmisson
    Converted to dual exhaust
    New fuel lines
    New brake lines
    New brakes
    New radiator
    New gas tank
    Rear bumper re-chromed.
    new master cyl
     
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  20. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

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