63 Tempest 421SD?

Discussion in 'The "Other" Bench' started by Tom Miller, Feb 11, 2005.

  1. Tom Miller

    Tom Miller Old car enthusiast

    Here is one that is stuffed into the back corner of the barn awaiting a good
    "game plan"
    Future project

    This is going to be put together as a fun driver that doesn't have to have
    correct casting number's,blah,blah,blah.
    I'm thinking a mid 60's Super Stock theme would look pretty cool.
     
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2007
  2. Tom Miller

    Tom Miller Old car enthusiast

    Could look nice one color

    This is much easier on the eyes
     
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2007
  3. JLP

    JLP Well-Known Member

    Ahhhhhh!!!!!

    My brother bought one new. Same color. 326/3 speed/2bbl. :3gears:

    He put a tripower setup on it from a '59 Bonneville but wouldn't fit as changed head and intake bolt pattern in '63. So he bought a new manifold and transfered everything. He told me later that he went through 7 trans axels in about 18 months. :jd: Just wouldn't handle the power.

    Rode in it many times to the drag strip. The Bonneville too. That is what hooked me. I am going to send the second pic to him.

    Wow!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the memories. :TU:

    Oh yeah, do whatever you want. Friend in AK had a red one with 12 bolt. Looked stock while doing mid 11's. No it wasn't a 326. :Brow: It was wrecked about 10 years ago. :mad:
     
  4. D-Con

    D-Con Kills Rats and Mice

    I have an article about one that Mickey Thompson built in '63 I think. Same deal, 421 SD....

    All the article showed I think was a pic of it coming off the line. I think it was in an old Hot Rod "Engine Swaps" book.
     
  5. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    Gn

    Definately Grand National drive train TUBBED-wheelie bars YOU get the picture ?? :3gears: :TU:
     
  6. 70 gsconvt

    70 gsconvt Silver Level contributor

    Oh, don't do that to that car. No tubbing, there should be enough room for some big meats back there. That sounds like a pretty rare car to be cutting up like that.
     
  7. Tom Miller

    Tom Miller Old car enthusiast

    This car isn't a real 421

    Hope I didn't mislead you guy's, this car is a 4cyl/auto :rolleyes:

    For driveline I'm thinking of taking a 400 block,using a stroker crank from Ohio
    crankshaft,keep it a pump gas engine.
    Maybe going to use a 200R4 with H.D. aftermarket internals, and for the rear
    I'm thinking an 8.5" 10 bolt from a T type or Grand National should be close
    to the correct width, if not I have a spare 8.5" from a 68-72 A body that I
    will have made to stock width NO TUBS!!!
    4 Bar rear with coil overs/panhard bar should all be a very easy install.

    This is a very distant future project, something with no real deadline, just
    something to build at my leisure for FUN! :3gears:
     
  8. JLP

    JLP Well-Known Member

  9. junior supercar

    junior supercar Well-Known Member

    I second that. I'm planning on doing the Butler stroker setup to a 400 I'll be putting in my 66 GTO.

    btw, LOVE the early 60s tempest. Would like to do one myself with a 421. And who knows, some decade I may get around to it too.
     
  10. gs4u2c

    gs4u2c Is that a 442?

    I didn't think those were aluminum fenders.... :cool:
     
  11. JLP

    JLP Well-Known Member

    Yeah. Waayyy ttooo mmmuuuccchhh RUST!!!!!!!!!!! :Brow: :laugh: :laugh:
     
  12. Tom Miller

    Tom Miller Old car enthusiast

    About the rust

    Really this car looks much worse than it is :puzzled: The car is an original
    paint 1 owner little ole lady car from West Virginia.

    Jack,
    VFN Fiberglass has everything to fix ANY rust issue's this car has :Brow:
     
  13. 65gs76limited

    65gs76limited Well-Known Member

    i read an article years ago about how(i think is was pontiac) experimented with a 62 or 63 tempest with a 421 automatic and a trans-axle. anyone else ever here of such a monster? i think it was a old Car Craft magazine article.
     
  14. gs4u2c

    gs4u2c Is that a 442?

    They mentioned the 421 62 Tempest on American Muscle Car a couple of weeks back when they were covering early American muscle.
     
  15. 65gs76limited

    65gs76limited Well-Known Member

    from what i remember from the article. whoever it was that put the cars together did like 3 cars and 1 or 2 tempest wagons with the same set-up. 421SD, auto and a trans-axle. anybody else ever read anything on these cars?
     
  16. skylarkroost

    skylarkroost skylarkroost

    Poncho Power

    Those Butler boys are the real deal. I'm fortunate to know Jim and his boys for the last 18 years and would highly recommend their motors and machine work. I even got David to port the heads and balance my Buick 455 after it was sonic checked. Not sure I was supposed to mention he worked on a Buick :) whoops!
     
  17. Brian Stefina

    Brian Stefina Well-Known Member

    Yes a 421SD with a four speed transaxle.

    Scott Tieman restored one about five years ago. It was a wagon, one of six. When it was done I think it was the only known correct example.

    I restored the transaxle. It has a two speed unit in front of the diff and one behind the diff with a dry clutch in the rear. It did a swap shift to have four gear ranges.

    It was all super rare stuff. I made a holding fixture and an installation fixture. After the restoration Arnie Beswick made a pass in it at the tri power nats.
     
  18. Tom Miller

    Tom Miller Old car enthusiast

    So your saying you should be able to fix me up,huh?

    O.K., ditch the plan on the solid rear axle/4 bar set-up, back to the wimpy
    transaxle.....NOT!! :grin:
     
  19. 65gs76limited

    65gs76limited Well-Known Member

    thanks brian, i was begining to think i was making things up. i knew i read that article somewhere years ago. was it pontiac that originaly put these cars together? thanks,Tom
     
  20. Brian Stefina

    Brian Stefina Well-Known Member

    Yes, Pontiac put those cars together. Where / how exactly I don't know. Perhaps a historian (or son of one) like Jeff Sawruck could shed some light. I do know the non standard parts had Pontiac development part numbers on them.
     

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