455 in a Land Rover

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Rossco, Jul 9, 2015.

  1. Rossco

    Rossco Greetings Earth Creatures

    @LARRY70GS the float bowls are half full as per my list of things Ive checked.
     
  2. Rossco

    Rossco Greetings Earth Creatures

    Hi Brandon, pressure is 6 - 7 psi
    I've had the bowls off and cant see anything. The floats are free and I've blown everything through with carb cleaner
     
  3. Rossco

    Rossco Greetings Earth Creatures

  4. Rossco

    Rossco Greetings Earth Creatures

  5. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Then the carburetor needs to be gone through. I think you have established that this is fuel related if it runs on starting fluid.
     
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  6. Rossco

    Rossco Greetings Earth Creatures

    Oh and I hope you are all having a good 4th of July
     
  7. Rossco

    Rossco Greetings Earth Creatures

    I agree Larry, I'm going to order up a repair kit
     
  8. Brandon Cocola

    Brandon Cocola Well-Known Member

    Did it back fire and take out the power valve, not that that would be the issue. If you pump the throttle does it squirt the gas?
     
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  9. Rossco

    Rossco Greetings Earth Creatures

    No, there's been no back fire and it squirts gas if I pump the throttle
     
  10. qak

    qak Well-Known Member

    Any updates, did you get it running? I found it strange it wouldn't fire with the acc pumps dumping that fuel in there, maybe somehow water got in the fuel?
     
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  11. Lennard

    Lennard Well-Known Member

    check how much vacuum it pulls during cranking ?
     
  12. Rossco

    Rossco Greetings Earth Creatures

    Repair kit should be here today.

    I suspect a vacuum leak.
     
  13. Rossco

    Rossco Greetings Earth Creatures

    Carb rebuilt and found a few things that I'm not happy with.

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  15. Rossco

    Rossco Greetings Earth Creatures

    OK, so the carb has been rebuilt and refitted. No change, it still wont run.

    So I'm going to order up some gaskets from TA and pull the inlet manifold and do some forensics.

    If that doesnt work then I'll wheel the engine into the corner of the workshop and put a cover over it. Maybe sometime when I have time I'll drag it out again but in the meantime the Land Rover is likely to end up with an LS in it.
     
  16. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    Don't swap engines just because you've got a fueling problem. I wouldn't even pull the intake manifold (yet.)

    Runs on starting fluid = adequate compression, adequate spark, adequate exhaust. Personally, I'd like to know the cranking compression numbers, and I'd like to test the spark with a tester calibrated for HEI...but I also don't expect to find a problem there. Just covering bases.

    All you're missing is a burnable fuel/air mix.

    If this were a problem with the carb, it'd be in the idle circuit, not the disfigured boosters/main circuit you photographed. But it should run on the accelerator pump if the fuel was good.

    I think you've got contaminated fuel, too.
     
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  17. qak

    qak Well-Known Member

    I asked the fuel questioning quality or water in it but don't remember seeing an answer.
     
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  18. Rossco

    Rossco Greetings Earth Creatures

    Schurkey, as you say it's all there except it won't burn the fuel.

    I don't see any reason for the compression to be off. This engine has basically done one cam break in, 5 pulls on the dyno and about an additional 30 mins of run time. Compression was ok when it ran last year.

    Checked the spark using a tester and they were all good enough to ignite any fuel, so will try some fresh fuel.

    The biggest problem is that I don't have a spare carb to swap with.
     
  19. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    I bought a 455 conv once cheap that owner said it had a burned valve. Ran lousy, hard to start....took a chance on it and ran it off fresh fuel in a jug and it ran great....pumped ALL the fuel out.....that was 15 yrs ago and it still runs great. Previous owner was just adding fresh fuel to bad fuel....add 5 gallons of fresh to bad and you then have 10 gallons of bad fuel.
    Becomes a BIG issue when you are talking boats with 100 to 200 gallons of fuel!
     
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  20. Rossco

    Rossco Greetings Earth Creatures

    So the bad fuel theory proved to be the right one.

    I have two five gallon Jerry cans both of which were filled a month or so ago. Swapped over to the other can and off she went.

    ........that's when I found that all the cranking had wiped out number one intake lobe.

    So some time later this year I'll swap the old cam back in.

    Thanks for all the suggestions, Ive no idea why the fuel should be bad.
     

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