430 Cam swap

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by 68Rivi_In_Cali, Apr 27, 2022.

  1. 68Rivi_In_Cali

    68Rivi_In_Cali Well-Known Member

    I finally will be getting my hands on a TA 284-88H for my stock rebuilt 430.

    I ordered a a double roller timing chain from TA and was looking at buying some new lifter to use on the cam.

    made the 430 lifters different from the 455 ones?

    Will these work or do I need to get hybrid pushrods? With 5/16 ends?
    I’m keeping the stock 430 valve train.


    Also, how do you guys like the 284-88H?

    figured since my build is stock , just sniper efi and long tubes , 3.73 rear, it would be a nice upgrade ofer stock.

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  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Those lifters oil the rockers through the pushrods. Your 430 oils the rockers through passageways in the block and heads.

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  3. 68Rivi_In_Cali

    68Rivi_In_Cali Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info! Looks like I’m going to have to track down the hybrid pushrods and a plug kit for the heads. Looks like my simple cam swap just turned a bit more complicated
     
  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  5. 68Rivi_In_Cali

    68Rivi_In_Cali Well-Known Member

    I gave them a ring and unfortunately those are back ordered as well with no ETA.

    I don’t think there’s an alternative source, or if there is I don’t have the correct part # looks like I might have to wait it out a bit longer.
     
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  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    OK, then you'll need to convert to push rod oiling.
     
  7. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Another possibility is to use the newer style lifters with solid hybrid adjustable pushrods. The solid pushrod tip will block the oil hole in the lifter cup no prob. This way you keep your current rocker assemblies and keep through-the-head oiling. Been there, done that.

    Devon
     
  8. 68Rivi_In_Cali

    68Rivi_In_Cali Well-Known Member

    Ah, I was originally thinking about that but wasn’t sure if it would mess anything up. Sounds like that might be a good option as well.
     
  9. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    When you hear “ back ordered, and no ETA”
    Your screwed, convert over to oil thru the pushrod
     
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    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

     
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  11. 68Rivi_In_Cali

    68Rivi_In_Cali Well-Known Member


    I ran some part #’s and found that summit in TX has these lifters.

    Show up as solid pushrod lifters , might be worth a shot

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  12. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Careful here. If these are the Buick nailhead lifters I think they are, they are flat faced. Your 430 cam requires a convex face to promote lifter rotation:

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    Devon
     
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  13. 68Rivi_In_Cali

    68Rivi_In_Cali Well-Known Member


    Thanks for the info. I did not know that.

    I downloaded the catalog from Sealed power and they have these listed for the 430 buick engine. Does seem promising. I ordered them but will post close pictures and inspect them before starting any swap.

    Here is a screenshot of the info.

    i can always send them back to summit in case they are incorrect.
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  14. 68Rivi_In_Cali

    68Rivi_In_Cali Well-Known Member

    Well received the new lifters, finally got into my engine and pulled an old one out for comparison.

    everything is identical except the cup where the pushrod sits.
    Is the solid pushrod supposed to wear into the cup portion or did they just install the 5/16 cup into the stock style lifter?

    Most likely wrong lifter all together then.

    New lifter on left

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  15. 68Rivi_In_Cali

    68Rivi_In_Cali Well-Known Member

    Old one

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    New one
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    maybe I’m just paranoid , close but I feel like the old one has a socket that cups the lifter more
     

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