‘66 Catalina at work

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Mark Demko, May 26, 2023.

  1. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    IMG_0583.jpeg IMG_0582.jpeg Repainted just the roof on this 55000 mi original car.
    389 2bbl, runs nice, nothing like big inch torque
     
  2. Luxus

    Luxus Gold Level Contributor

    Noice!
     
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  3. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    Those things are huge!
     
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  4. ilikebmx999

    ilikebmx999 Well-Known Member

    Love it! I miss my 64 cat
     
  5. Luxus

    Luxus Gold Level Contributor

    Yes, but very stylish. And the 389 wasn't a bad motor. I had a friend who had a 65 Bonneville.
     
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  6. mineseats9

    mineseats9 Gold Level Contributor

    When I was looking for my first “nice” classic car in the 90’s I was looking at ‘66 Catalinas and ‘67 Skylarks. I looked at a couple Catalinas and then found and bought a ‘67 Skylark Conv and now I have several Buicks, a garage full of parts and i look at V8Buick every two hours.
     
  7. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    I love the 64-66 Grand Prix if I do say so myself. Someone locally here has an unmolested 68 GP convertible. The body style changed drastically that year but I also like it.
     
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  8. Nailhead in a 1967

    Nailhead in a 1967 Kell-Mnown Wember

    They are only 214.8 inches long, the model year 1966 Electra is 223.4 inches
     
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  9. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    The Pontiac is still Huge!
     
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  10. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    I took it around the block before bringing it to the main building, smooooooth runner, second gear acceleration is strong, TORQUE:cool:
     
  11. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    I agree that the 389 wasn't a bad motor - neither were any of the other Pontiac V8's of that type. The only consistent issue was the timing chain nylon camshaft gears. During my years twisting wrenches for a living, I'll bet that I replaced at least two Pontiac Timing chains and gears for every one of anything else. I don't know why Pontiac had that issue; perhaps the gear ran hotter or didn't get enough oil, but if I had anything to do with Pontiac's QC, the V8s would have gotten an all-metal gear.
     
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  12. PGSS

    PGSS Gold Level Contributor

    I got drive a 64 Grand Prix that a guy I knew was doing some touch up work on friends.
    Standard 389 TH400? Had the 8 lug wheels. Was snappy for a big car but didn't know what gears it had out back, I layed into it shortly on a side street so I didn't get the full drive experience. The front brakes though were all over the place.

    Also had a friend who rebuilt his 389 in his 66 GTO that ended up putting it in 67 GTO convertible with a 4 speed and 3:55's out back. It had some goodies but was still on the stock pistons with a hone and new rings.
    The car being a vert and a little frame rust was kinda hard to launch like the body flexed and felt heavy. Motor ran great though.
    I noticed on the 2 389's I drove that they made torque but you had to keep the revs up to work the torque. Wasn't like my 401's where you could just about idle it.
     
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  13. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Yeah 389 two bbl, T-400 probably high 2 series rear gear, I didn’t burn rubber lol, not my car;) but when it shifted to second I gave it some throttle and YEP, there’s the torque! You were pushed lightly into the seat back;)
     
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  14. WQ59B

    WQ59B Well-Known Member

    '64 GP original auto is the Roto HydraMatic - [R at the bottom]. Many people hate on it mostly because they have a noticable RPM drop going into 2nd. The senior Pontiacs (Star Chief / Bonneville) had the Super HydraMatic 4-spd auto.

    I've had (8) 389 cars, and I still have my first car - '64 GP, all original. Upgrading to this when the engine gets out of rebuilder jail :

    Tri-P 04.jpg
     
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  15. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    What was different about the “Roto” trans verses the standard auto trans?
     
  16. WQ59B

    WQ59B Well-Known Member

    Roto HydraMatic 375 ('61-64) was a 3-spd (or sometimes termed; a '3-spd with a dual range 1st gear') with an internal torque converter. When you unbolt it, this is what you see:
    IMG_3674.jpg

    https://www.charlietranny.com/375RHM.htm

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  17. PGSS

    PGSS Gold Level Contributor

    Wow I had not a clue.. As far as I remember it had the D 2 1 and I think it down shifted? This was about 24 years ago.
    I remember the GP owner had another 64 GP with A/C and the A/C car didn't have the really nice 3 pod gauge clusters. I didn't drive in that car though.
     
  18. WQ59B

    WQ59B Well-Known Member

    Pontiac used ‘D’rive ‘S’uper ‘L’ow markings.

    My GP is a factory A/C car- I never minded the center vent duct, tho I have thought it should be possible to delete just that vent and sub the gauges back in. Standard; those were merely the fuel/ clock/ ammeter- what would be the cat’s pajamas would be the quite rare Custom gauge cluster: oil pressure/ clock/ water temp.
     
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  19. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    My son has this as a new, long term project…
    Patrick 3C1C9FA8-279D-4247-B0BF-1ACA497EA3A3.jpeg 70BCEA59-2BA7-4F3F-BBA0-2C681ED72478.jpeg
     
  20. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    If not for my first love, that would be my second.

    Devon
     
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