The desire of your heart......

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  1. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    Psalm 37:4
    King James Version
    4 Delight thyself also in the Lord: and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.

    I'm fairly certain this doesn't mean a 482 Big block GS when one desires one! He, I believe it means the desire to obedience & love & honor for his name's sake

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  2. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    Bingo! The desires of your heart will come from Him! I love this verse and it is a constant reminder to me that many of my desires are fleeting and temporary with no eternal value outside this life. Thanks for this.

    I'm also reminded every time I look at the rust bubbles under my vinyl roof and get all discouraged, of Matthew 6: 19-21 :D

    "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."
     
  3. 482

    482 Big Member

    Continuing with Matthew 7:7-8 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For everyone that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
    Matthew 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
    But as He mentioned you need to ask Him for these desires.
     
  4. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    Seek the Author the living WORD Jesus and HE will give you the CORRECT interpretation! the Spirit of God will give revelation of HIS word not some humans' opinions! 1Corinthians 2:16
     
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  5. 482

    482 Big Member

    1 Corinthians 2:16. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
    Excellent point, well said Gary.
    James 1:5-6. If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. ...........
    You mentioned revelation, do you feel God still speaks His Word to man today when they ask Him as he did anciently and has it written down somewhere?
     
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  6. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    Revelation? Not in the new/different sense, but an understanding of what he has already said in the 66 books of scripture God breathed.
    Although on a personal note/I believe sanctification is an ongoing process. (knowledge of G_d)
    HaHa! Write it down? Not in my case lOL!
    And on the adding or subtracting Revelation 22:18
     
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  7. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    Wanting the desire of one's heart is given by God! it is a "new revelation" as I understand it?
    As the "natural man hasn't a desire of God or for God?
     
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  8. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    Yes you're highlighting God's sovereignty. He is sovereign in our birth, life, our calling (or not), our justification, sanctification and glorification, ultimately, at our last breath. This is not a popular truth even in many "christian" circles. We like to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and be able to say "look what I've done". "I had the faith". "I did enough good stuff to deserve heaven" Eph 2:8; Rom 10:17 says different. Even the faith to believe if a gift. If we could "achieve" perfection on our own merit, which incidentally, is what God requires to be with Him, then Jesus came and suffered for no reason. The older I get, the more I learn that I am not in control of my own sanctification, I am a partaker in my sanctification through the faith He gives me to obey and trust. This is what "work out your salvation with fear and trembling" really is. (Phil 2:12-13). You are "working out" what has already been accomplished. We're not working "for" our salvation". we are working "in" our salvation. It's already been accomplished. So we live for His glory as a proper response. All the while, fighting my own desires which are opposed to God's desires. What a real battle, but also a real blessing it is to stay focused on His promises and not on the lies of the enemy and this world that tell me otherwise. In the end, I recognize that anything good I do, even anything I suffer, if it is not to His glory, it is utterly purposeless.
     
  9. 482

    482 Big Member

    Revelation 22:18-19: For I testify unto every man that hearth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
    John the Apostle wrote the book of Revelation in exile on the island of Patmos. After he returned to the Turkish coast and Ephesus he wrote the books of the First Epistle of John and the Second Epistle of John after Revelations was written and hundreds of years before the books that are in the Bible's were stacked together. John was meaning his book of Revelation that he had just written down not other books that may be collected and put along side his books at different times. Hope the guys who put in Chapter, Verse and Page numbers aren't in trouble.
     
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  10. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    And it is an awesome thing to consider is it not? We know it's all Him because we would never be willing to go to Him on our own.
     
  11. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    I must say for a very long time I didn't realize it was his drawing me to himself and not my state or position in this life but his call to one of his elect PTL :)
    The election aspect/theology is a difficult position to explain to the unconverted, and almost as well to the converted lol :)
     
  12. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    Truth! There is a tension between predestination and free will that is as real as the air we breathe but absolutely impossible to resolve on this side of eternity.
     
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  13. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    The finite mind cannot possibly understand the infinite mind of God & creator!
    So we remain with both positions and no remedy for either side :D
     
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  14. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    I remember Adrian Rogers said in a sermon once, "Oh you say you don't understand, how this can be? Well that doesn't bother me. Can the finite comprehend the infinite?" That has always stuck with me.
     
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  15. docgsx

    docgsx It's not a GTX

    According to this, if we have truly repented and are changed, it’s really easy to figure out!
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Peter 4&version=AMP
     
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  16. 482

    482 Big Member

    Jesus praying to his Father recorded in;
    John 17:3-5 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou has sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
    Jesus says he wants us to know God, not the "finite mind" that "cannot possibly understand" view point stated.
    Jesus was praying to his Father not to himself, they are separate and distinct individuals. Who would make up a different inconceivable story out of a plain and precious self evident statement of truth? Besides a murderous pagan Roman politician and his lackeys? I guess following the Roman emperor generals orders and being rewarded beats being crucified and fed to the lions for another couple of hundred years.
    Matthew 3:16-17 And Jesus, when he was baptized. went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: and lo a voice from heaven saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
    Jesus in the river with John, the Holy Ghost descending like a dove, and God the Father speaking out of the heavens. Three separate and distinct personages at the same time, not inconceivable, not meant to be. Jesus wasn't a ventriloquist trying to deceive people by throwing his voice from heaven or any other odd claim.
    Acts 7:55-56 But he, (Stephen) being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God. And said, behold, I see the heavens opened, and the son of man standing on the right hand of God.
    Separate and distinct personages, God and Jesus Christ his Son. My finite mind can understand this plain and simple truth. Why teach others differently than the only true God from the Bible?
     
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  17. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    The context is of election and knowing how God chose us before the foundation of the world?
    So in the context of that? Do we understand?
    It is given to know what we need to know; all will be revealed in eternity.
    The trinity has been revealed just as the scriptures you posted say!

    1 Corinthians 13:12
    King James Version

    12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
     
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  18. 482

    482 Big Member

    Great scripture Gary, thanks for sharing.
     
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  19. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    Hi I don't know your name but I agree with you. Three persons in one being does not perplex me. My comment was "There is a tension between predestination and free will that is as real as the air we breathe but absolutely impossible to resolve on this side of eternity." These two things work together flawlessly because God is the creator and author of both and they are both evident in scripture. I accept them, but I am not ashamed to say my finite mind cannot fully comprehend these two elements working simultaneously, but by faith I know they do. One has already happened, and one has not. I don't know, that blows my mind though. As GKMoz posted, now we see through a glass dimly.
     
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  20. 482

    482 Big Member

    Thanks Ken,
     
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