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    Default Tomahawk Dragster

    By now you're asking "what happened to the block TA delivered last Thanksgiving. Well we're working on it. Kenny Betts of Kenne-Bell fame has teamed up with John Everett (JESUPERCAT) with the "Nail Head" blown fuel dragster to put the Tomahawk motor in his car. Rather than finish up the door slammer, it will be more advantageous to put it in a car already certified to go 6.0. I know what you're thinking so save the comments for real questions. My goal is to make every specialty part available through TA Performance so the next generation will have a head start. If you look at the block some of you might have noticed the freeze plugs are missing. We chose to go with a solid block for strength. By the way Mike at TA still has a few with the water jackets for street or all out strip use. Don't wait till he's out and have to wait for the next run. When you rely on outside suppliers the 2 week window is always 6+ weeks. Don't we all know it. We will keep you posted of progress. Thanks as always, kenny betts
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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Well you sure don't have to worry about the freeze plugs falling out now
    Paul Wilke DDS

    '70GS 350 ,now an "Amateur" Touring Car, Stage 2 455/2004R ,Baer brakes, FAST EFI, called 3GS
    '70Skylark Road racer blown up 350 soon to be 464 Stage 2 (Betsy)
    '78F150 XLT 462BBB / Turbo 400 / 9" (Henry)
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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    NO I don't, and think about the $ I'll save not having to buy them or the specialty tool and labor to install them. lol

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    How much does one of these blocks cost? and how about one with water jackets?
    This Riviera is the one I'm looking to buy, It's a 1978 Buick Riviera. I see big things coming forward out this monster!

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    Red face Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    will this engine be supercharged and injected on alcohol?
    Eric
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    66 SKYLARK
    70 SKYLARK 462
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    72 RIVIERA
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    70 Skylark 350 Formally known as Jessica Rabbit (Jessie)
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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Yes, It will be blown, We have a 6:71 and a Pro charger F3R-139, Sorry no alcohol, We are using NITRO-METHANE

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Well actually we will use some methanol for the warm up and a little to dilute the nitro .
    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Quote Originally Posted by ken betts View Post
    We are using NITRO-METHANE
    Oooooooooo! This is going to be something to see.
    Steven

    1965 Skylark - Best 1/4 Mile 11.05 @121.31 ~ Best Nitrous 10.04 @ 133.35
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    64 Buick Special
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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Yep that's right for start-up but alcohol sounds like a sewing machine compared to nitro!

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    Red face Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    how long before lift off ? lol
    Eric
    NYCTA
    Past Buick's
    84 regal 462 11.78@112 (pump gas) sold in 99
    66 SKYLARK
    70 SKYLARK 462
    71 SKYLARK 350
    72 SKYLARK 350 CUSTOM
    72 RIVIERA
    -------------------------
    70 Skylark 350 Formally known as Jessica Rabbit (Jessie)
    Someday a 464 BBB STG-2 TE Heads EZ-EFI Borg Warner T-10 Trans 3.73 gear...
    2001 Regal GS
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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Here is a shot of the timing assembly
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    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    We're shooting for.... I mean we're blasting off in late fall Well maybe not blast off or lift off but how about rocket down the strip!

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    Red face Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    does TA have a timing cover for the new block ?
    Eric
    NYCTA
    Past Buick's
    84 regal 462 11.78@112 (pump gas) sold in 99
    66 SKYLARK
    70 SKYLARK 462
    71 SKYLARK 350
    72 SKYLARK 350 CUSTOM
    72 RIVIERA
    -------------------------
    70 Skylark 350 Formally known as Jessica Rabbit (Jessie)
    Someday a 464 BBB STG-2 TE Heads EZ-EFI Borg Warner T-10 Trans 3.73 gear...
    2001 Regal GS
    BPG Member 1232
    North Eastern Chapter Member 235

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    A stock cover is suppose to bolt right on. Last I heard Mike was working on one for raised cam motors with distributors. Eventually for full race like what we are doing we will get Mike the specs. to make one for all who wants one. Maybe JESUPERCAT can post a picture of our cover. We will also be using a mag.

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Here are few shots of the timing cover. The raised cam design meant a backing plate had to be made for the cover to mount to. For this application a gear drive was used for durability. The mag, fuel pump and oil pumps will be driven off the cam.
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    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Very cool guys, its really awesome to start to see some of the cool projects that are coming together. Keep the pictures coming as you progress!
    Drew Edwards
    70 GS

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    To top this off you are going to need some good heads. Is TA working on new design good flowing heads for the Tomahawk block? Mike D.

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    Mike Ken was working on head ideas long before he even had a block.

    We are using heads with no water jackets to help increase the flow potential.
    The heads are waiting for the final machining to be done and then they will go off to have some fine tuning done in the ports. The rocker arm design is done also. We were discussing the Valve cover design last night .
    I am sure as we move forward Ken will list some of the more specific parts and numbers.
    We strongly believe that it is in everyone's best interest to push this block to the spot light so to speak. For TA to exceed with this block and parts for it there must be interest in it. Our goal is to get a Buick powered car into Nostalgia Top Fuel. We were told it is not possible, due to the fact the Buick doesn't have the power to be competitive in the class. We look at this as encouragement towards our goal
    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    You know, I always wondered what a set of the original "tunnel port" heads could do on top of a block that could handle it . . .

    I'm sure any heads designed and made now would have a huge advantage over the old technology though.

    When that thing gets together, I expect to see some video!
    John "Hutch" Skierka
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    '70 Skylark Resto- Era correct street machine buildup; panel paint and all . . .
    '79 Roadhawk- 22,981 Miles ---Sold---
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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    TA has taken the old Stage 2 factory heads to new levels. There has been some significant upgrades that will be available in the future. I'm just not in the position to say when. Even before this project is on the track we will be working for competition heads to compete on any level. This isn't going to happen over night but our effort this fall will show just what this block is capable of. We have had the big boys look at this block and have said it looks strong enough for 4500 HP. Remember this is a solid block with solid heads. We won't be driving to the grocery store in this one. There will be plenty more pictures coming, however I doubt if I will be holding the video cam when this takes off. I will be slightly distracted and unable to push the button. I don't like watching live action through a peep hole.

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    My only problem with the block is price.... I know you guys don't care to talk at me but when I can have a C.N.C. Block down for the same price or alittle cheaper then there is something to debate about. I have contacted several people on doing specially things for this T/A Block and any CNC block and they said they can make anything you want, Heads that look like Buick heads but have ports size of Hemi heads and flow just as good and still use T/A products. This guy's just don't build heads to have one off piece's made for them. They want it where you can use exsisting piece's from earlier heads. Cams, well you guy's have made your mind on that. Rods and Crank, some of you know your stuff, Pistons, you are definitly learning. The Intake's well, maybe we should look at this guys for advice,http://www.marcellamanifolds.net/ , This guy worked for some top notch people before going off on his own. Please look at the pictures of his manifolds http://www.marcellamanifolds.net/images/Images.html He also does cast aluminum manifolds, cuts them apart and redoes them to the proper way for better flow, if you are looking for hood clearance! Please think twice on performance and clearance issue. You can't have both.
    This Riviera is the one I'm looking to buy, It's a 1978 Buick Riviera. I see big things coming forward out this monster!

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    http://[/IMG],[/IMG] This was a LSX intake made to fit and run on something else. Look closely you can see it was cut in half...
    This Riviera is the one I'm looking to buy, It's a 1978 Buick Riviera. I see big things coming forward out this monster!

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    [/IMG] this one consisted of CNC runners and then redone to his spec's, Its a Pontiac intake......
    This Riviera is the one I'm looking to buy, It's a 1978 Buick Riviera. I see big things coming forward out this monster!

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    [/IMG] , This is John's Marcella's own stuff here. I hope this will help you all out one way or another.
    This Riviera is the one I'm looking to buy, It's a 1978 Buick Riviera. I see big things coming forward out this monster!

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    Default Re: Tomahawk Dragster

    John as for video we will be using a GoPro camera. I will be making a mount just behind the front wing. That position will look forward(about 10" off the ground) or back towards the engine(less noise up front). I will also use the mount to the right of my helmet for that drivers perspective. May need to make a heat and sound shield for that location.
    I know for a fact that I will not be holding anything at the yellow but the butterfly wheel
    John Everett

    "Not all Boats are slow Boats"

    66 Wildcat GS 2x4 425 original
    GSCA# 1966
    66 Wildcat GS convertible
    Dragsters;
    221" 1973 S&W rear engine Blown Fuel Nailhead
    200" FED 462" Cast iron block, Hilborn 4-port
    148" Injected Nailhead FED

 

 
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