WOT Problems

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by EasyCompany7, May 29, 2006.

  1. EasyCompany7

    EasyCompany7 Semper Fi

    We've had problems with my carb at WOT. The Primaries run great on it and the secondaries are decent. The Problem is at WOT the engine seems to cut in and out slightly. If you back off the throttle slightly the cutting off stops. My dad and i mentally noted the throttle position and while in the driveway we looked to see what the secondary throttle plates were doing when we back off. They are practically closed. So whats going on guys?
    He have a modded engine, headers, cam, intake, breakerless ignition ect ect.
    What have you guys had to do to your carb to take it up a notch for upgrades. We have the carb kit and have been messing around with different combinations. Wat have you guys done to fix this problem.
     
  2. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Assuming you're running a q-jet...

    If the secondary air valves - not throttle blades - are opening properly (you probably won't see this revving in park, they take a moment to open under WOT), then I suspect you may have a fuel delivery issue. Has anything been done to check or upgrade the fuel system?

    Devon
     
  3. BuickBuddy

    BuickBuddy Registered V8 Offender GK

    9 out of 10 times this problem is caused by not enough fuel. Remove the return line from your fuel pump and plug it. Then give it a go. :TU:
     
  4. EasyCompany7

    EasyCompany7 Semper Fi

    we will check thouse things. It feels like it takes way to long to wind up to redline. I've got a 3.9 gear so it should wind up real quick. It takes for ever to hit redline after 4,000 rpms
     
  5. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Another thing that helps with diagnosis is a fuel pressure gage...if you have unrestricted lines and at least 1-2 psi at WOT, you might end up looking for some other problem.

    Devon
     
  6. EasyCompany7

    EasyCompany7 Semper Fi

    i only have the line that goes into the carb and the one that comes from the gas tank. So what do you mean?
     
  7. EasyCompany7

    EasyCompany7 Semper Fi

    no we havents upgraded or check the fuel system. When i changed the manifold i had to put in a rubber line from the metal line to the carb to make up for the height difference.
     
  8. EasyCompany7

    EasyCompany7 Semper Fi

    maybe i need a new fuel pump, its the original un-rebuilt one still in there. We also have a high flow needle and seat. Would that help solve the fuel starvation?
     
  9. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Before we can say for sure, the pressure check should be done. That way you don't have to spend money guessing (or maybe you have a newer or hi-po fuel pump you can try?).

    Devon
     
  10. alec296

    alec296 i need another buick

    i think these guys are steering you in the right direction
    i assume you dont have air cond sisnce you only have one line from tank
    to fuel pump? pull your gas filter and cut it open see if its got gunk
    in it.replace it anyways.eliminate that possibilty
    but it can tell you how much crap is in your tank/lines
    check your rubber hoses for cracks or being wet after engine was ran
    even by tank ,if so replace. if you can put a fuel gauge on it and check
    fuel pressure under load.it should be 4-5 under load .if not replace/
    upgrade
     
  11. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Good advice, Andy, though I have to say I've not seen a stock pump hit such high pressure at full throttle on a healthy engine. :Do No:

    I did more digging; Doug Roe's "Rochester Carburetors" book says the q-jet can perform on 2 psi, but ideally should be no less than 4, no more than 6, for what it's worth.

    Jake, I hope the detail is of more help!

    Devon
     
  12. skyphix

    skyphix Well-Known Member

    Just FYI, a new pump might be good insurance anyway, had the original one let go on me 150 miles from home. A new one cost 13.95 and took me an hour to install without jack stands and me being an idiot and not putting the engine at TDC.
     
  13. EasyCompany7

    EasyCompany7 Semper Fi

    where did you find one for $13. TA sells that one for like 70. Im going to check the filter and what not. I'm gonna head up to murrays and get some valve cover gaskets (pos chrome valve covers :af: ). I'll ask them about fuel pumps and how much $$ they want. Im hoping that we can get this thing running good before i leave for bootcamp. I wana take it to the track at least once before i leave.
     
  14. skyphix

    skyphix Well-Known Member

  15. EasyCompany7

    EasyCompany7 Semper Fi

    PROBLEM SOLVED!
    For anyone that has given me help in the last six months thanks. We've been working on getting this car running good for a long time and been very frustrated. We've gone through vacuum leaks, fuel lines and pumps, timing problems, and gone through the carb numerous times and now we got this baby singing.

    The final solution to our problem was changing over to a high flow high cap. needle and seat assembly. On the first trail run to an open house I brought the hammer down and she's back and more. That sucker really really flies. There is no more stumble or struggle at WOT, you can feel her take a big gulp as the secondaries flip open for a scream. We will be doing some fine tuning today and fiddling with a few more things but she is definitely hauling.

    Thanks again for every one that has helped me and my dad identify the numerous problems and things that needed to be changed. This site is priceless when it comes to this stuff. Our next goal is taking it to the strip and we will get you guys some time slips.

    Thanks again -Jake- :3gears:
     
  16. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Glad to hear the news, Jake!

    Devon
     

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