Working on my 430 heads

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Sebambam, May 24, 2020.

  1. Sebambam

    Sebambam Well-Known Member

    Hey guys I am using 430 heads on my 455 for now.
    I got a good set of big chamber 69cc heads
    In great condition here.
    I am in the process of porting them right now.
    I will use a set of Stage 1 valves & spring from TA.
    The 455 block will be decked to 10.550 as JW recommended.
    Head gasket arround .40

    How much should I will the heads to possibly gain some compression?

    Goal is a decent pump gas compression
     

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  2. Sebambam

    Sebambam Well-Known Member

    Further question should I block the exhaust crossover?
    Full? Partial?
     
  3. BuickV8Mike

    BuickV8Mike SD Buick Fan

    I think I will next time with a small hole. Is is HOT in Texas? :p:p:p
     
  4. Sebambam

    Sebambam Well-Known Member

    F*** it can get hot out here.
    It's never gonna be a daily driver motor.
    Rather performance oriented
    Possibly with a bit of NOS
     
  5. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    What is the compression height of the pistons you will use?

    Have you actually measured the chambers on those heads? I know 69cc is the published figure, but they may not be.
     
  6. Sebambam

    Sebambam Well-Known Member

    Decission has not been made 100% but either -22cc or -8.34 wisecos
     
  7. Sebambam

    Sebambam Well-Known Member

    I specd the "book" info I can measure it to verify
     
  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I would.

    If you know the compression height of the pistons, you can figure out how much in the hole they will be at TDC with a deck height of 10.550"
     
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  9. Sebambam

    Sebambam Well-Known Member

    I have to get the valve job done 1st.
    The old valves where rusted and wouldn't display an accurate meassure.

    So let's change the question..
    What's a avg max min head milling before there will be problems with intake fittment
     
  10. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    My TA aluminum heads were milled .040 and I had no problem, but the stock iron heads may be different, I'm not sure. TA makes composite intake gaskets as thin as .015" which will help.
     
  11. Sebambam

    Sebambam Well-Known Member

    I see..
    I was thinking about a .15 -.20 mill in the heads.
     
  12. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    You mean .015 - .020"
     
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  13. Sebambam

    Sebambam Well-Known Member

    Yes sir
     
  14. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    That should be no problem. For every .004" you mill heads, you lose 1cc in chamber volume. So if you mill the heads .020, you lose 5cc. That could mean 64cc chambers, but I would measure and confirm.
     
  15. Sebambam

    Sebambam Well-Known Member

    what do you think
    how much of a compression bump would that be?
     
  16. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Just from the head milling, potentially about .5.

    I'm going to post this article again,

    http://www.empirenet.com/pkelley2/DynamicCR.html

    At the end of the article is a calculator you can EASILY download and install on your computer. The calculator lets you figure out static compression ratios and dynamic compression ratios. It's easy to use. You can make changes and see the results in seconds.
     
  17. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Those are big port castings,..have them psi checked b4 spending any time on them

    Wiescos sit low like .052 on the last engine I had with them

    Leave the port entry alone on the intake side spend your time in the bowl,..opening the chamber up around the valves .just lay that hard edge back,.and work the exhaust side good,..shorten the guide boss about 1/8in and thin it out
     
  18. Sebambam

    Sebambam Well-Known Member

    Great advice
     
  19. Sebambam

    Sebambam Well-Known Member

    Not pretty but definitely worked.
    especially on the exhaust side. the runner had a hump on the top that i completely removed, i worked the bowls and valve guide boss.
    I removed casting imperfections on the runners and was smoothening everything with sandrolls, but didnt go over board since i want flow and not a nice appearance.

    I will drop the block and heads at the machine shop today

    Heads will get "leftover" parts i got "donated"
    Stage 1 plus springs, and 2.00/1.625 Valves
    possibly a milling of 0.020 to bump up the compression

    Block will get 4.350 bore, new cam bearings and freeze plugs + 10.550 deck
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  20. Sebambam

    Sebambam Well-Known Member

    ok.. Machineshop called... the heads no good to build.
    Well i l take the porting as a practise run.
    i have a good set of 661 castings here, that i will build. unless i find a reasonable priced set of alu heads.
    Focus on bottom end 1st
     

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