Wildcat GS vert with 28,000 org

Discussion in 'Ebay Parts and Cars' started by william.ali.kay, Oct 23, 2010.

  1. william.ali.kay

    william.ali.kay Needs more cowbell!

  2. Brian Albrecht

    Brian Albrecht Classic Reflections

    Beautiful certainly comes to mind...
     
  3. Topcat

    Topcat Got TORQUE?

    I don't know why a 28,000 mile car needs that much restoration....lots of things have been repainted and that red transmission makes me want to think that it might be a 126,00 car that was restored..........

    Nice being a special paint car......i want to see that MX coded block.....fuel filter is in the wrong place......

    Peace WildBill

    Brian, it was nice seeing you a the GS Nationals !
     
  4. Dan K

    Dan K Well-Known Member

    Wild Bill,
    This car would look good in your garage....you could take that obnoxious paint off of the trans, and put the filter in the right place....I don't know about the mileage, or the claim that only three came with A/C, but it has the look of a well maintained original, especially for a Minnesota car. Dan
     
  5. Topcat

    Topcat Got TORQUE?

    Dan, you are right. It would look right at home in the Cat's Lair :TU:

    I like the car and it does look well maintained. I need a closer inspection if it has spent it's life in Minnesota......if you know what i mean :Brow:

    I wanna see those rear trunk body mounts.........

    I've never been much of a 'vert fan but if there was one i could get into it would be this one :beers2:

    Peace WildBill

    p.s........i missed you picking thru my parts at the GS nationals this year :(
     
  6. Topcat

    Topcat Got TORQUE?

    This car is a total restoration from the looks of it. The custom horn cap on the wood wheel is one of the ones that i did with the Wildcat head years ago. I should know this cars owner or builder. Just doubt the mileage.

    Still a beautiful car !

    Peace WildBill
     
  7. TurboV6

    TurboV6 Platinum Level Contributor

    The mileage is possible, but you would just not expect a car with just 28K on the clock to need so much in the way of restoration.
    Why was the tranny out, and what were they thinking when they painted it. Couple of things just dont add up.
     
  8. Dan K

    Dan K Well-Known Member

    I agree with the above. Bill, you'd love a convertible...there's nothing likr the wind in your, ehh, what used to be hair...Dan
     
  9. 65gs76limited

    65gs76limited Well-Known Member

    64 was KX,65 was LX but I thought in 66 the X was dropped and buick went with a "Z" so this should be a MZ coded car should it not? Tom
     
  10. Brian Albrecht

    Brian Albrecht Classic Reflections

    Ditto!
     
  11. lapham3@aol.com

    lapham3@aol.com Well-Known Member

    A couple of us looked at this car last year-very nice and most everything appears to have been 'worked on' at some point. The owner was replacing the A/C-heater ducting as we visited-got to respect an 80 year old guy crawling under that dash! I started, but did not drive the car. I understand that it was at Ames this year so it should have been seen by many-
     
  12. 66electrafied

    66electrafied Just tossing in my nickel's worth

    I have a hard time believing that this car has 28 K miles on it; - the pedals look too worn for that. (Even though it's a bad picture) Everything, while clean, just has that too worn look to it. I would think it's a reworked 128 K car, yes. He did a pretty good job on it though, it's a nice car...
     
  13. TODD'S 67

    TODD'S 67 Time for another Buick!

    Looks nice but that red tranny is definitely wrong.
     
  14. Topcat

    Topcat Got TORQUE?

    I have not found my reference book yet but i believe that Tom is correct......it should be a MZ code..........

    What was the guys first name and first letter of his last name? Is it Jim Al....


    Peace WildBill
     
  15. lapham3@aol.com

    lapham3@aol.com Well-Known Member

    I don't get too spun up on miles. For me, the closer to original and unmessed with the better, but since this car was a long way from what I buy, didn't check every 'detail'. I don't remember any sign of rust. I seem to recall that the carpet was a bit 'strange' as in a different type. I picked up a western no rust loaded Custom years ago and found GS badging in the trunk, so I know where the previous owner was headed-but for those that it matters, that little inflation sticker in the glove box kinda tells the tale. Didn't anybody go to the BCA nats in Ames and see this car? Bill- I sent you a PM
     
  16. TurboV6

    TurboV6 Platinum Level Contributor

    I was at the BCA Nationals, but I just dont remember this one. I even went back to my pictures and BCA pictures in the Bugle, dont see it. I need to ask Don Hutson if he has pictures and remembers it

    Considering that I want a Wildcat, I am sure I would have looked it over :Dou:
     
  17. Wildcat GS

    Wildcat GS Wildcat GS

    Thought I`d chime in here...This cannot be an original factory built Super Wildcat because according to the Daily Car Reports the Southgate plant did not produce any custom converts so equipped.
    The build date on the body is too early also as it is the first week in Feb. The factory installed option was not available `till March 1 and the earliest dates we have seen in the Rivs is late Feb body build. So it is close but a little too early.
    The front carb appears to be a `64 version and the plug wire holders are for an air pump equipped car. According to Buick lit the Super Wildcat cars were built without air pumps even in CA. My Riv which was delivered to Peck Buick in San Diego is so equipped. Little things but alot of little things leave many ????
    The steering column is from a Riviera and the absence of the "correct" horn cap tells me the wheel may have also started life in a Riv.
    The interior color has been changed from the original "Fawn" to black and the trunk has been completely refinished with non-original materials.
    Way too many changes on this car to describe it as 28K "original" and at this point I would feel the need to inspect it personally to determine if it is even an original GS. Seems it is a car built according to an owners "wish list" or idea of the ultimate `66 Wcat.
    After having picked on the car I think it is a gorgeous Wcat. Disregarding the originality of the dual quads if it is an original GS convert in a special order color it is a rare car!
     
  18. 66electrafied

    66electrafied Just tossing in my nickel's worth

    I would think that just about settles it; - makes sense to me, and thanks for pointing out all of the little things that some of us saw but couldn't put a finger on.

    It still is a gorgeous car though, even though that red tranny would drive me to drink...I'd still like to have an "ultimate Wildcat" one day...
     
  19. micadelic

    micadelic Member

    Hey all...
    I'm the guy helping this 80 year old gent sell this car. He doesn't have internet so I put it on eBay for him. His name is Roger M. and he's a great guy. I might have emailed or spoken with a few of you over the last couple days. ;-)

    I have contacted the Sloan Museum about this car and I am hopeful to get information.

    Here is the main mystery with this car...
    The engine is stamped MX which should have made sense (because prior the 425 dual quads were JX, KX & LX) but for some reason in '66 the dual quads were stamped MZ. So if anyone has any theory how this obviously 425 engine is stamped MX I would love to hear it.

    The rear trunk lid was hail damaged and it was replaced by a new one from the factory in the early 70s. That is also the reason for the new roof (which was originally white) and the new upholstery on the seats. He said this car had this damage when he purchased it (he thinks in '72). He bought it from the insurance agency he says with about 12,000 miles on it.

    The engine was fully taken out, "balanced and blueprinted" because, Roger says, "that's what guys like me did to engines back then." I have no idea what "balanced and blueprinted" means. I do know that every last item works on this car and it runs like a charm. It's also one of the sweetest sounding engines I've ever heard but I'm no expert.

    One thing is for sure, it is a matching numbers car and it does have a 425.

    Why the heck it's stamped MX276 is a mystery for the ages!

    Any chance this was special ordered (the trim tag does say special paint - Riviera Gold) and assembled early in '66 with an 425 dual quad. Since the dual quads engines were always stamped with an X, they stamped it MX as that would have been the protocol and shipped it out?

    This is just a theory but does this even seem plausible?

    I can tell you that Roger is a heck of a good guy and seems honest to me. I think he fully believes what he is telling me about this car (that it was delivered with the dual quads).
     
  20. micadelic

    micadelic Member

    Also, they are Carter AFB carbs. Here are the numbers off the front of the carbs if this means anything to anyone or can help unravel the mystery.

    rear (main)
    3646S
    AM3

    front (secondary)
    3645S
    AC3

    So they certainly at least appear to be a matched set because they are only 1 number apart. But again, I know nothing about it, I'm just reporting the facts as I know them.

    The car does have a red inflation sticker in the glove box and I've heard that it should be blue. But again, I'm wondering if since it was a special car, custom ordered, and assembled in California, that would account for the anomalies.

    Any help anyone can give would be greatly appreciated!
     

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