Wheel hop woes

Discussion in 'Race car chassis tech' started by stubnosebrock, Nov 23, 2013.

  1. stubnosebrock

    stubnosebrock Well-Known Member

    I have some pretty nasty wheel hop in my car. The current set up is boxed stock lowers, control arm mount braces, stock uppers, 8.5 10 bolt, 3.23 gears, 295-50-15 tires. Car is a 4 speed. I bought a set of anti hop bars used off the board, and after making new bushings, realized they wont even come close to fitting.:af: The right side hits the webbing bad. I would have to the bar so thin to fit, that its pointless. So my question is, what are my options. Ive looked at UMI lower control arm relocation brackets. Mixed feelings on them. Not sure if any other no hop bars will fit any better. Im lost. Any help is appreciated.
     
  2. Clanceman427

    Clanceman427 Hardtops need not apply

    Hi Brandon. In my experience, reducing wheel hop on our factory 4 links was more about upper control arms. I see your tire size, which isn't extremely tall, so I'm wondering if you have it jacked-up in the back for some rake. If so, that puts the upper control arms angled down where they mount to the differential. This is adding to wheel hop. Take a look at the angle of your upper control arms. There are adjustable upper setups available, which may help you more than the lower control arm add-ons. Do you have air shocks? Or old worn out rear coils? You could try deflating the air shocks (if you have them) or putting in older springs that bring the back end down to get those uppers more level, and see if that helps your wheel hop situation. The geometry is key.
     
  3. eganddg

    eganddg Well-Known Member

    my experience with these in the past, I had to cut the no hop bar and reweld it (after a little fabricating) to clear the webbing. These are not exactly bolt on in all cases. With a little welding and fabbing skills, They will fit. The set I had on my '68 four speed car and they eliminated my wheel hop issue. I will be installing a set on my '72 over the next couple months. I dont have a "hop" issue with this car though.....just absolutley ZERO traction! Im hoping with these and some other mods, I may be able to get it to hook a little. Otherwise, I will start adding weight back on the car. Dave
     
  4. carmantx

    carmantx Never Surrender

    What has worked for us for traction and no hopping, street car:
    Air bag in right side rear spring
    Adjustable upper control arm to set pinion angle
    50/50 rear drag shocks
    battery in trunk

    street/strip car
    same as above plus
    adjustable rear lower bars
    90/10 front shocks
    lightest front spings (for chevelle 6 cyl, no air)
     
  5. ronbz455

    ronbz455 Big Butz Racing

    Yes that is the key what Carman said and the thing I found when we put the Mosier rear end in the car it started pulling wheelies and had more consistent 60' times. The upper arm mounts are taller on the Mosier rear end so the no hop bars will help you just need to make them fit. I have never used them but I have a stock 12 bolt and I will use them if I don't go 4 link just to raise the mounting point of the upper control arms. I never had wheel hop but mine was always set up like Carman. For the rear shocks I got stock gas shocks and drilled a hole in the cartrige and let the gas out. Nothing like taking brand new shocks and drilling a hole in them!:TU:
     
  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I had all kinds of problems fitting Edelbrock No Hops to my car when it had the 8.2 10 bolt rear. I ground on them, and still couldn't get one side to fit. Summit took them back, and then I ordered the TA Performance ones. They cost more, but fit and quality are much better. They went on to my 8.2, and then my 8.5 with absolutely no problem, or modification. They work great in my car. See my experience in this thread,

    http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?81563-No-Hop-Bars/page2&highlight=no+hop+bars
     
  7. ronbz455

    ronbz455 Big Butz Racing

    Where does TA get them from?
     
  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I have no idea, but I can tell you that they are noticeably of better quality than other no hop bars I have seen on the market. They fit the first time on both rears, no muss, no fuss.
     
  9. ronbz455

    ronbz455 Big Butz Racing

    Are the 12 bolt and 10 bolt the same on the housings?
     
  10. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I doubt it. Just looked in the TA catalog. TA manufactures their no hop bars, and they are billet steel.
     
  11. stubnosebrock

    stubnosebrock Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the input guys. I did get the bars on after some grinding. Of course the weather is crap so I cant try them out. I wanted to add that all the bushings are new rubber replacements, and the rear shocks are new KYB gas adjusts. I believe the rear springs have been stretched some, although the rear doesnt appear that high. I do not have air shocks. Hopefully this will help me out.
     

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