Water pump removal and new install on 350-4

Discussion in 'Buick FAQ' started by Scoutmaster 442, Aug 3, 2018.

  1. Scoutmaster 442

    Scoutmaster 442 Active Member

    A couple of weeks ago, I had requested information on how to get my stuck fan and clutch off of the water pump. I was able to do that and decided to replace the water pump. Now that the fan is out of the way, I have access to the broken bolt that holds the bracket for the alternator and compressor onto the pump. I have many questions about this. First, what does the water pump actually attach to? Does it go against the timing chain cover and then also bolt to the block too? There are so many more bolts on the Skylark than my Chevelle. In my factory assembly manual, it doesn't show enough detail to answer any questions. If I can figure out how to attaché a photo of the pump and gasket, maybe someone can clue me in on where all the holes go. I just wanted to clean up my engine compartment but it looks like I've jumped in the DEEP END.

    Maybe someone out there has detailed image that shows how these components go together. I don't have a shop service manual.

    Any assistance would be much appreciated.

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  2. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    That broken water pump bolt that holds end of alt. bracket can be drilled thru and use a bolt & nut setup.
    Use penetrating lube on all pump bolts, tap on head with hammer to free up corrosion on bolts.
    Easy does it.
     
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  3. Scoutmaster 442

    Scoutmaster 442 Active Member

    Thanks for that information. I can get it drilled out now that I have everything else out of the way but I'm not sure what you mean by the bolt and nut setup. With regard to all the bolts and what the actually thread into, would you have the diagram of how all those components go together? Any help is much appreciated.
     
  4. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    The large headed bolts thread into the engine block. all the small bolts thread into the timing cover. Be very careful with these especially the small ones. Lightly rock them back and forth until they get broke loose. You may even want to use some heat. Not so much as to melt the aluminum.
     
  5. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    Drill straight thru and use a bolt with nut and washer instead of using the original timing cover threads.
    Or you can heli-coil repair the timing cover back to its original thread size. More dinking around than thru bolt with washers & nut.
     
  6. Scoutmaster 442

    Scoutmaster 442 Active Member

    I was able to finally get the old water pump removed but in the process, another three of the small bolts snapped. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Could I take two nuts and tighten it against the flywheel cover and then tighten the second one against that one and use a wrench on the first on and a ratchet on the outer one to back them out. I have sprayed a lot of Liquid Wrench penetrating oil on each of the ends still in the cover.

    Thanks to both of you for your assistance. I'll get it figured out but it may take some time.
     
  7. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    if you have enough thread that would work or it may snap off again. Put some heat on the bolt and let it cool spray the oil around the base of the bolt so it sucks it into the hole. Always a chance you will have to remove the timing cover to drill and tap those holes if they break off flush
     
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  8. john.schaefer77

    john.schaefer77 Well-Known Member

    I'm sure you meant timing cover and not flywheel, but that sounds like it could work if you have enough stud left. Those bolts love to break flush! I would hear them and spray lube so it wicks in the threads, install your nuts, then tap with hammer. When putting new hardware in, use anti sieze on the bolts and torque them to factory spec, 7 ft/lbs or 84 in/lbs.
     
  9. Scoutmaster 442

    Scoutmaster 442 Active Member

    Thanks to all of you Mart, John and Briz for your input. I have the willingness to learn what I can from you guys but sometimes putting your knowledge to work through my hands is another thing. For now, I will probably have to wait till I can get one of my car guy buddies with a torch to come over to help me. I don't want to mess things up any further than I already have. I really don't want to take the "Timing Cover" off if I don't have to. I guess if it comes to that, I'll be right back here asking you guys for more guidance. I just wish I have someone close who knew anything about Buicks. Even at car shows, I hardly ever see any Buicks of any make let alone Skylarks.

    Thanks again.

    Mark
     
  10. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Theres probably members in your area. This is where the working Zee Map would come in handy
     

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