Turbo 3.8 in vintage Buick

Discussion in 'High Tech for Old Iron' started by RudyE, Aug 22, 2003.

  1. dryskip

    dryskip Mid-life Crisis Victim

    Yes, he was there. Don't recall how he did. Some of the other modified v6 cars were really fast though.
    Talked to his brother today. He ran a couple of high 10.80's and lost in the first round.
     
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  2. 70 Judge

    70 Judge Member

  3. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Interesting info, the 231 buick motor could definitely benefit from the new technology to ofset it's small dispacement. Neat idea.
     
  4. CTX-SLPR

    CTX-SLPR Modern Technology User

    Howdy,

    Anyone got pictures of a turbo 6 in a 61-62 Special or Skylark? Heard a rumor of one floating around at one time. That would be a wicked car, 2700lbs with a 400hp motor in it! The scary thing is that the new turbo 6 weights almost 100lbs more that the orginal 215 V8, then again it has anywhere from 16-41 more cid and an iron block. I'm building a 600hp 256cid twin turbo V6, think it would rock in one of those early 60's specials?
     
  5. MikeM

    MikeM Mississippi Buicks

    Cooincidentally, I just ran across this ad today for a 63 Convertible. Looks like a great car to do something like that with, it's in nice shape although white may not be the best color. Just what you're talking about.

    http://used-cars.autos.yahoo.com/us...sPSZnPSZtaz1CdWljayZtbz0mc3VibWl0PVNlYXJjaA--

    1963 Buick Skylark $3250 or best offer Beverly Hills, CA

    - THIS CONVERTIBLE WILL BE SOLD FOR THE HIGHEST PRICE I HAVE A 3 MONTH OLD BABY NOW AND I WILL NOT TAKE THE BABY IN THE CONVERTIBLE SOOOOOO ! I WILL MISS THIS CAR ! THE CAR IS IN EXCELLENT CONDITION ! I AM THE OWNER OF THE CAR AND I HAVE A CLEAR TITLE READY FOR YOU TO TAKE POSSESION . THERE WERE LESS THAN 8900 OF THESE CARS MADE IN 1963 IT IS TRUELY A RARE CUTE CAR. THE CAR HAS HAD REGULAR MAINTANCE AND IS READY TO DRIVE ! THE CAR HAS LESS THAN 85,500 MILES ON IT . THE CONVERTIBLE HAS ALWAYS BEEN GARAGE KEPT. CONVERTIBLE IS IN EXCELLENT CONDITION , ALL DOORS WORK PERFECT ALL WINDOWS ROLL UP WITH NO PROBLEM THE TOP IS IN GREAT SHAPE AND COMES UP WITH THE TURN OF A SWITCH ! CAR STARTS UP EASILLY AND HAS DUAL EXHAUST , V-8 200 H/P PLENTY OF POWER ! 5 NEW RADIAL TIRES .CARS RUNS VERY SMOOTH AND PERS LIKE A KITTEN ! NO RUST BUCKET SEATS IN FRONT ARE NICE , ENGINE IS CLEAN AND CAR HAS BEEN TOTALLY GARAGE KEPT AND IS IN EXCELLENT CONDITION . YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING JUST GET IN AND GO ! andrews sara sara_cola2002 yahoo com
     
  6. GoldBoattail455

    GoldBoattail455 462 -> TH400 -> Posi

    I just had seen last wed.a Stingray corvette (67?) red with a buick 3.8 turbocharged engine in it.
     
  7. 70larkownr

    70larkownr Where did that civic go?

    I plan on doin this swap soon! How hard is the wiring? What is the best manual to get to look at the wiring diagrams? What all wiring harnesses would I need? I got a good way to make the fuel system and the only real question left for me is the wiring and how hard it would be to straighten it out. I plan on using the 200 4r with the 3.8 but a manual would be sweet too, maybe a t56 out of a f body!
    Heres my plan so far:
    Use 350 mounts bolted to block drops right into frame
    Drill new holes in frame for the new tranny crossmember position
    No driveshaft shortening, same length as th350
    get adapters to make tranny lines the metric fitting
    make the fuel system
    I got all of this just dont know what I need and dont need wiring wise.
    Lemme know if you can help!
    Mack
     
  8. BOOST!

    BOOST! Love Drunk

    Hey Mack!

    I hear ya. Next week I hope to dump the turbo 6 in the '69!

    They say that you want to run an automatic so you can build boost as it multiplies torque.

    Besides the 350 motor mounts you will need the stamped 350 frame pads also.

    I have an aluminum Griffin radiator, but I think I am going to go with the stock '87 Grand National radiator, for two reasons: It has the needed oil cooler and tranny cooler already built in. I am just going to run the stock lines to the stock radiator. It will certainly look cleaner than having a radiator, intercooler, oil cooler, and tranny cooler, parked in front of the motor.

    I have two stock '87 harnesses for sale if you want to take a crack at wiring it in. :rolleyes: I had several Casper's harnesses made. They are pricey, but incredibly well made. All of the wires are labeled. John Spina know his stuff and builds it all for the Buick community.

    Caspers!

    Another source:

    Harness

    I do not have experience with them, price is cheaper.:Do No:

    My convertible happens to be a no option GS 400. No PS, PB, AC, PW etc. so I do not have those headaches to worry about.

    PM me for my phone number if you want to talk swap.

    Take Care!:3gears:
     
  9. JR Wills

    JR Wills Well-Known Member

    HELP ON INFORMATION REQUESTED
    Mike Atwood has a PIX of a 64-5 Red Skylark @ Kearney in the reponses.
    I NEED to find information on THIS car.
    From what I can see, it MAY be the 64 Built by my Brother back in 79-80, by seeing the Rollbar & seats, as well as the blacked out side trim.
    ANY help on locating the Car & owner would be APPRECIATED GREATLY.
    JR Wills
    Dickinson TX
    jrwills1970@earthlink.net
     
  10. Tufbuick

    Tufbuick Guest

    HERE YA GO........CHECK THIS ONE OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Pat and Jan Demiures car at Norwalk.
     

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  11. Tufbuick

    Tufbuick Guest

    I think this TA all aluminum motor is supposed to go in there!!!!!!
     

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  12. Roberta

    Roberta Buick Berta

    Turbo Dave Roland wired up a 3.8 Turbo for a local guy in Flint in a '39 Buick. I sent him this link so maybe he will post some pics. Also he got the wiring harness from John at Caspers and was very happy with it! Of course!
     
  13. turbodave231

    turbodave231 Just another whiz bang V6

    Check these pictures out:
     

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    turbodave231 Just another whiz bang V6

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  15. turbodave231

    turbodave231 Just another whiz bang V6

    John Spina and the guys at Caspers build a GREAT harness. I highly recommend using their harness to accomplish this swap. These guys took my order over the phone and the CUSTOM harness came through exactly as I needed it!
     
  16. turbodave231

    turbodave231 Just another whiz bang V6

    These pictures don't do the car justice..It is a show winner!!!...and I can't take credit for the whole car. I only did the entire electrical system. The rest of the work was done by others.

    I love all cars Buick and Turbo!!!!!
     

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  17. CTX-SLPR

    CTX-SLPR Modern Technology User

    Hey Dave,

    I'm stuffing the 67 with turbo motor this winter. I have a complete stock system from a 86 GN with a modded computer for the bigger injectors, trans+ for the LS1/6 MAF and spark control and I'll be getting a custom chip once I get the combination finalized. Do you suggest I still go with the casper's harness or use the stock one I have?

    Thanks,
     
  18. turbodave231

    turbodave231 Just another whiz bang V6

    If you're installing the 86-87 3.8 turbo drivetrain in a 67 Buick, I'd use the stock engine harness if you already have one. For the 39, the stock wire harness wouldn't work because all the wiring had to pass thru on the passenger side of the firewall and it was a tight fit.

    In your 67, you ought to have lots of real estate to work with.

    Dave
     
  19. CTX-SLPR

    CTX-SLPR Modern Technology User

    Thanks Dave,

    I'm not using the 200-4R, I'm going switch pitch 400 but I don't think that will mess up the computer. I looked at the caspers one, if I had the budget for the custom one I would but I unfortunately need that much for the custom pistons... so thanks for the confidence booste on doing the stock harness.

    Thanks,
     
  20. BOOST!

    BOOST! Love Drunk

    TH400 and a Turbo 6

    Centeral TEXAS Sleeper,

    I had planned on putting a TH400 behind the turbo 6 in the GS. I bought my motor out of a '87 GN with the transmission. I posted this idea on the turbo boards and they discouraged running the TH400, unless you are building a dragstrip only car.

    For me, it turns out cost and pratically it is better for me to go with the 200-4R.

    The deterrants for the TH400 were the cost of the manual valve body and VSS controls you will need, VSS Speedo Signal Kit, and or, VSS VDO Sender Dead End, and or, VSS Convertor, and or, VSS VDO Sender Feed Thru, etc.

    I was not too happy about having to use a manual valve body and shift gears with an automatic.:rant:

    Also, the old question about the horsepower it takes to turn a 400.

    And last but not least, Overdrive. I have 35 miles to work and gas is not getting any cheaper. I have a 12 bolt and 3.55's and I figure cruse with the 400 would be about 3,300 RPM. I don't want the tranny to be a driving consideration.

    Hope this helps!
     

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