Transmissions again, BR, BS

Discussion in 'The "Paper Trail"' started by SpecialWagon65, Feb 15, 2003.

  1. SpecialWagon65

    SpecialWagon65 Ted Nagel

    Hi, I am trying to maximize my knowledge of these trannie codes for 1965.
    Here is what I have so far. Not sure if this is accurate, and positive its not complete!!!
    Any other combos to add?
    I did not include the BU since it would have a different
    bellhousing.
    Anybody know if there was another code if the 3.91 gears were ordered?


    BJ- 401 LT 3.07 axle
    BR- 401 LT 3.23 axle

    Any other for 401's? 3.42 axle?


    BN - 425 LW 4-bbl., 3.07 axle/also seen on a
    425 LX two-carbs 3.07 open axle(Wildcat)
    BT - 425 LW 4-bbl., 3.23 axle
    ?? - 425 LW 4-bbl, 3.42 axle- is this a BS?


    BQ - 425 LX two carbs, 3.07 axle
    ?? - 425 LX two carbs, 3.23 axle
    BS - 425 LX two-carbs, Riviera, 3.42 posi

    Thanks,

    Snowed in and frozen in Cincinnati,
     
  2. Mark Ascher

    Mark Ascher 65GS.com

    Ted,

    I'm assuming these are auto trans codes?

    Mark
     
  3. SpecialWagon65

    SpecialWagon65 Ted Nagel

    Yes! All automatic ST400 codes.
    ST300 for the GS is NK .
    New Question-in '66 did the GS (Skylark) use the ST400 or carry over the ST300?

    ..Thanks,
     
  4. Mark Ascher

    Mark Ascher 65GS.com

    Ted,

    Ok, just checkin. I am almost sure GM carried over the ST300 for the GS in 66.

    Not snowed in, but frozen.

    Mark
     
  5. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

    The Buick Chassis Manual would have that info....look in the ST400 section, codes and applications are listed. Axle ratio is not a consideration.

    Here are the codes for 1966:

    BR...401
    BT...425
    BU...340
    BS...425 Wildcat and Riviera GS

    Sorry, I don't have any 1965 info here.

    The Skylark GS (unfortunately) used the ST300 trans in 1966. As far as I know, the only Nailheads to use the ST300 were the 65-66 Skylark GS's... Buick went to alot of expense ( a new case)to put that tranny in so few cars....wish they had just used the ST400, would've saved us from having to do the swap ourselves!

    The '67 GS400 got the ST400...
     
  6. SpecialWagon65

    SpecialWagon65 Ted Nagel

    Unfortunately rhe 65 chassis manual does not have the same application info. That was the first place I looked!
    From my cars; all '65s:(I have not changed trannies-I suppose the serial #s or production dates should be studied before I say that these were definately the original transmissions. The reason for asking the question in the first place was to try to have the transmission match the application, and I have found more questions than answers! I still have more letters than applications if they are set the same as '66.)

    Riv, 401, 3.23; BR
    Wildcat NOM,(suspect it was a LT), 3.07: BJ
    Wildcat LX, 3.07: BN
    Wildcat NOM(suspect it was a LW), 3.07: BT
    Riv, LX; (engine only, no rear)BN
    And the Riv LX (GS) 3.42 is supposed to be a BS.

    There is probably no/not much difference in these trannies.(yeah, the BS is special!) I just like knowledge. Truly this is esoteric, but that is why I am posting here. There is more great stuff to be known about these cars than any 1 person could know, but this is the place where a lot of the people that may have that knowledge are "hanging out". Come forth, keepers of esoterica!
    The secrets are safe with us! If we tell anybody they will fall asleep instantly!
    Cheers!
     
  7. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

    Found more!

    Okay, here is some more info I found in the 1965 service information letters...
    Transmission section:
    Not much help here, just a listing of codes without application, until I came to the speedometer gear usage chart! Here is the breakdown:

    -BJ.....2.78, 3.07, 3.58, 3.91, rear-end gear ratios
    -BN....same as above
    -BQ....same as above
    -BR....3.23, 3.36, 3.42 ratios
    -BS....3.42 ratio
    -BT....3.23, 3.36, 3.42 ratio.
    -BU (4500 series- small block Lesabre?)

    Everything posted so far fits the above, except for the Wildcat with BT trans and 3.07 rear....
    Not that it helps, but....some of these ratios were only available as a posi in 1966, and the '66 BS, and BT used a different governor.
     
  8. SpecialWagon65

    SpecialWagon65 Ted Nagel

    Thanks Walt!
     

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