th400

Discussion in 'The "Juice Box"' started by thapachuco, Jun 17, 2009.

  1. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    well it looks like my 67 lesabre has a th400 in it. im pleasantly surprised. however, my kick down switch was removed some time ago because it went out. i still have the original piece.

    does anyone know where i can get a replacement and maybe an install diagram? thanks alot!
     
  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    http://mrbuick.com/misc.htm

    It bolts on with 1 bolt, and you plug it in. You don't need a diagram. Why don't have a chassis manual for your car? It should have been the first thing you bought.
     
  3. Rivman

    Rivman Senior Ottawa Buick Guy

    It's all covered in the '67 Shop Manual ! :rolleyes:
     
  4. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    thanks...
     
  5. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    For '67 the detent ("kickdown") switch is not at the accel pedal under the dash like the later models...it sits next to the carb and is also part of the variable pitch function along with a microswitch on the firewall linkage which keep high stall whenever the throttle is closed. I scanned this image from the manual awhile back showing the ST300 linkage, which should be the same setup for ST400:

    http://home.comcast.net/~shinzan/ST300_linkage.jpg

    There aren't any aftermarket sources for the setup that I know of, unfortunately.

    Devon
     
  6. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    WOW good lookin on that diagram Wildcat. Thanks!!

    do ou currently have this setup on your car?
     
  7. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member


    Good pick up Devon, yup kickdown and stator change is in the engine compartment in 67
     
  8. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Glad to help.

    I only use the original switch on the firewall linkage which gives me high stall whenever the throttle is closed. Perfect for the big cam at a stoplight. I use a microswitch on the column shifter for high stall when pulling away. With this much cam the engine likes to spin up a bit even at part throttle cruising. Low stall is just too tight at low engine speeds.

    Devon
     
  9. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    can you explain what you mean by stall. sorry im not to hip on all the tranny terminology, im still trying to understand them.
     
  10. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member


    Perhaps you should read up on what a switch pitch transmission is if you don't know what stall speed means.

    http://www.buickperformance.com/switchpitch.htm
     
  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  12. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    those were great reads. Thank you Larry.

    I read that i dont have to have a switch near the carb but rather add one to my dash somewhere. i need to figure out how to do this, i would like the lockup to work again on this car.

    So the main thing about these trannys is that it has the switch near the carb, other than that its pretty much a straight foward tranny, shifting twice?
     
  13. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Simple toggle switch. One wire goes to 12 volts (off the fuse block). The other wire goes to the horizontal connection at the transmission.
     
  14. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    so after reading, maybe you can clarify, a switch pitch trans 1. able to angle itslef accordingly 2. has an additional gear that prohibits the engine and trans from slipping at higher rpm's

    my grandpa, Original owner, said the switch was used for passing cars, leading me to believe it was like and overdrive? If i wanted to increase cruising speed efficenecy on the highway could i engage the switch at 65mph?

    thanks again
     
  15. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    It's not an added gear. The torque converter has 2 stall speeds. You get the combination of high stall and low stall in 1 converter. High stall gives better acceleration from a dead stop (if you have enough traction). Low stall is better for cruising. Less heat in the fluid, and better gas mileage.
     
  16. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    so i can engage the elcrical switch whenever i want really? or leave it on all the time?

    sorry im a little confused, obviously... ha
     
  17. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member


    It isn't meant to be left on (hi stall) continuously. But you can go back and forth. cruising should be in low stall.

    If you are confused, go back and read the articles again. Or, you can Google "switch pitch transmissions" and read some more.
     
  18. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    one last question before i dive into google

    hi-stall (switch engaged)
    low-stall (switch off)

    correct?
     
  19. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Yes
     
  20. thapachuco

    thapachuco Well-Known Member

    thank you sir
     

Share This Page