supercharger for nailhead?

Discussion in ''Da Nailhead' started by buickcoach, Nov 12, 2005.

  1. buickcoach

    buickcoach 1961 Buick Hearse

    this is for a future project, i figure they made superchargers for nailheads a long time ago. i'm wondering who made them and how many are around still. also wondering the aprox. value of a vintage supercharger and the intake for it. and if anyone makes an intake for one today. i would buy one right now if the price was right, but this is more like something i won't need for a few years.
     
  2. I have researched this. If your wanting a roots style Blower Dyer makes them for the nailheads as does Blower Drive Service also known as BDS. if you want a centrifugal there are no bolt on kits as of yet. Bob
     
  3. D-Con

    D-Con Kills Rats and Mice

    Don't forget Hampton Blowers. I believe he is the only one that will custom make a true blower manifold. The others are done with an adapter plate on top of a carburetor manifold.

    Rob, please correct me if that is wrong.
     
  4. GSXMEN

    GSXMEN Got Jesus?

    Someone on the board is running an ATI ProCharger on his nailhead......the preferred way to go, IMO.

    Here's a nice pic of a roots blower on a nailhead....no idea on the owner.
     

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  5. 4toe

    4toe Well-Known Member

    The pic is of a converted 2x4 manifold and Don Hampton does it this way also. So does NW Speed
     
  6. B 50

    B 50 Member

    I`m currently rebuilding my 425 and planning to run it with 6-71. Intake should be low as possible to fit under `50 hood, so I think it`s possible to mill intake out of two flat plates of aluminum. Unlike the other V8`s, nailheads have flat intake surfaces on heads, there`s no need to mill intake to any angle. No water outlet, no distributor hole. Just mill runners to blocks, add pop-off and bolt them together. There might be room enough for air-to-water intercooler too. Carburators can`t be used with ic, but maybe efi injectors are possible to fit to heads, under the intake. At last week I milled Maddog/Ross pistons for 8.5:1 compression ratio. Milling low throttle body should be next. There`s no hurry, maybe some day...
     
  7. woodenbuick

    woodenbuick Well-Known Member

    So you are planning to put a nailhead in a 50 ?

    Hmm, seems to be the same reason I am building up a 425. I wont go with a blower but Dual Quads never look bad.

    Are you going to use the stock Buick Frame or arre you doing something different ? Any ideas what you are going to use for Motor mounts ?
     
  8. B 50

    B 50 Member

    Original Buick frame, yes. Just got welded 5" kick up to rear, but otherwise stock. I`ve been running with sbc for six years now, so the frame is modified for open driveshaft already. Former axle was from `81 Bonneville stw, but it`s too wide. Tirechanges was real pain. Now there`s a `73 El Camino rear resting on garage`s floor. New 4-link should be done and change those VW Transporter coils to airbags. I have no idea of engine mounts. I don`t have anykind of Buick motormounts. Maybe Chevy mounts, somehow. I haven`t trialfitted nailhead to enginebay yet, but looks like oilpan doesn`t need modifications. What kind of exhaust manifolds you planned to use? Steering column is real close to engine.
     
  9. Dan K

    Dan K Well-Known Member

    B 50,
    Here's a thread I posted some time back with pics of a homemade nailhead blower manifold. I don't know if it's 4-71 or 6-71, but it looks like any good welder could do it . Dan
    http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=21216
     
  10. GSXMEN

    GSXMEN Got Jesus?

    BDS Blowers has blower intakes for odd & even fire V6's, 401-425 Nailheads and 400-455 BBB's.

    You can get them for 6-71 or 8-71 blowers.........$799 for the manifold.

    You can also get a complete blower kit for around $3400.

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  11. DugsSin

    DugsSin Well-Known Member

    Does Carmen do blown Nails?

    I don't see a camshaft included in the kit. Wonder who has the knowledge on how to set up a cam for a blown Nailhead ?

    Seems a low compession Nailhead has found its way into my garage and this sure would put some grunt back into her.
     
  12. GSXMEN

    GSXMEN Got Jesus?

    Doug - I would think it would be best to have heads fully ported to take advantage of the SC. I know the SC3800 Series II guys shoot for at least 90% on their exhaust ports.

    Once you have the head flow numbers, and an idea how much boost/power you're looking to make - you should be well armed to talk to the cam companies, TA, etc. to get a custom grind for your application.

    From what I've seen, you'll want a wider LS on the cam.....over 110*. Even with a killer set of heads, they may still recommend a split pattern, favoring the exhaust.

    A good set of step headers and an X-pipe could compliment the whole mix too.
     
  13. B 50

    B 50 Member

    Dan K, great pictures. The intake is much like I had in mind. Top plate bolt pattern seems like same as 6-71`s top bolt pattern. Underside of intake bolt holes are slotted, maybe it`s originally fabricated for 322 and afterwards modified for newer nailhead. But I can`t understand how the supercharger is bolted to intake. There`s no bolt holes or threads for 6-71 in the upper plate. Blower is wider than intake, but because of top plate bolt heads, it can`t be bolted straight to intake. This is just wild quess, but could it be like this; Hilborn 4-port injection, made for 6-71, is bolted to intake. Because of pop-off its obviously been supercharged, so maybe the supercharger has been McCulloch or Paxton?
     
  14. Blower

    Depending on how much power you want i wouldn't go crazy porting the heads. I have a 671 blower on top of my 364 8.1 compression and it has about 10lbs of boost. The only thing really done to the heads is bowl work.
     

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