SBB sheetmetal intake and more...

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by 87GN@Tahoe, Mar 1, 2012.

  1. 87GN@Tahoe

    87GN@Tahoe Well-Known Member

    Adam, they're not much to see this time of year, but you're welcome to come up.

    Johnny, that's strictly racecar stuff right there. Too high dollar for my app.:laugh:

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    Adam, they're not much to see this time of year, but you're welcome to come up.

    Johnny, that's strictly racecar stuff right there. Too high dollar for my app.:laugh:
     
  2. 87GN@Tahoe

    87GN@Tahoe Well-Known Member

    Installed home modified double-adjustable upper rear control arms, Hotchkiss boxed lower rear control arms, SSBC front disc brake kit, line lock, global west tubular upper and lower front control arms, new "Cargo" rear springs, and the original stock front springs...

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  3. 87GN@Tahoe

    87GN@Tahoe Well-Known Member

    Currently has a .81 A/R exhaust housing on it... I also have a .96 housing for when I step up the displacement.

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  4. 87GN@Tahoe

    87GN@Tahoe Well-Known Member

    Just got my Accel Gen7 setup in the mail... Along with over 18" of snow, so no install progress for at least a few days...
     
  5. 87GN@Tahoe

    87GN@Tahoe Well-Known Member

    A bit slow on updates...

    Last Memorial day my buddy who's been doing the welding, Ansel White http://www.anselwhite.com/ , took his Ducatti for a spin to Emerald Bay and back. Along the way he went off the road and smashed his head into a rock. He cracked his helmet upon impact, causing some serious trauma to his brain, and he also broke his clavical.

    He was flown by Care Flight to Reno. The flight nurses (one of whom is one of my good friend's wife) did not think he was going to make it.

    With the might of his stubbornness and prayers from friends and the community he pulled through. He spent quite a while in a medically induced coma, then weeks of physical therapy ensued.

    He's home now, and recovered for the most part. We are all very happy to have him back!

    He just recently took back up the tig torch and finished the intake;

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    I've picked up more parts in the mean time as well. Just a short post for now, more later.
     
  6. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut


    Very glad your friend is ok!!!!

    Looks great!!!!!
     
  7. 87GN@Tahoe

    87GN@Tahoe Well-Known Member

    We are too! He's at the SEMA show in Vegas right now. He sent me a picture of a chopped Caddy that he swears he saw, down to the interior, whilst he was in his coma.... A car that the public hasn't seen 'til this year's show:Brow::Do No:

    I picked up a few parts since my last post months ago...

    I installed a roof rack to get the look right, and I've picked up a bunch chrome trim for the windows and such, also to get the look more sleeper and less "blacked out"

    I haven't installed the trim, but I think she's already looking more like a GILF with the roof rack:

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    Here are some of the parts I've picked up and have been hoarding:

    A1000, 10 and 100 micron filters, Edelbrock 90mm TB, and Fuel Lab FPR

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    5/8" (-10 AN) aluminium fuel line, 44mm wastegate, 50mm BOV and 3" tube flanged for BOV

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    Buick "poverty" caps, 6.300" DLC Pankl rods and casidium coated wrist pins (for the future "race" engine)

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    I have a few other items, like Precision 95lb injectors, but nothing too outrageous. The "race" engine looks to be further away than before, as my wife and I bought a house in July, which cuts into the toy fund significantly.
     
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  8. 87GN@Tahoe

    87GN@Tahoe Well-Known Member

    So to mount the 90mm TB, I had to machine an adapter plate, as the bolt pattern was different from the ford bolt pattern originally machined into the front plate of the plenum.

    Here is the piece I machined out of 1/2" aluminium plate with countersunk holes for mounting to plenum. I also machined grooves for 4" rubber o-rings front and back in case I decide to go that route for sealing:

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    Mounted to the intake:

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    VROOM VROOM!

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    Now I can run either style of throttlebody with just the turn of an allen key
     
  9. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

    I am super jealous of the fab work. Looking great!
     
  10. 87GN@Tahoe

    87GN@Tahoe Well-Known Member

    Thanks!

    I'm jelly of your work with EFI and more specifically megasquirt. Despite my going with Accel, I think I can learn quite a bit from you and others on this board when it comes to tuning.
     
  11. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

    I'm just a hack that is persistent :eek: I'm not much of a max power tuner, but I can make an engine run and drive :TU:
     
  12. 87GN@Tahoe

    87GN@Tahoe Well-Known Member

    You and I may be more alike than you think:Dou:

    I see you went to Drag Week.. I would like to do that as well in the future with this car. How was it? your likes/dislikes? Adivice?

    On another note;

    I have a bit of a conundrum at the moment... I have a new, reproduction fuel tank (for a '65 Chevelle wagon) and am debating whether I should put an external sump on it and run my A1000 externally, OR cut it open and put an internal sump/baffles and run the pump internally.

    External benefits are ease of maintenance/ repair with both filters and pump our of the tank in case of obstruction or failure. Downsides are louder, more obvious (less and less a "sleeper"), potential for it to be scraped off the tank on a (waaayy in the future) wheels-up launch or by road debris, pump running hotter/not lasting as long.

    Internal benefits are quieter operation, cooler/lasting longer, more of a "sleeper", wont get scraped off. Downsides are Murphy is always lurking and with my luck he'll wait 'till I just filled the tank for there to be a clogged pre-filter or dead pump. Also making an effective internal "sump" that would still allow for most of the fuel to be picked up could be tricky...

    Anyone with any ideas/suggestions/pictures???
     
  13. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

    I went on Drag Week 2012 too, but the forum software won't let me update my signature unless I remove the two project thread links.

    Goal #1 on drag week is to survive the week. Doesn't matter how quick the car is, if you don't make it to day 5 then it doesn't matter. The track breaks street cars and the street breaks drag cars. It's a good idea to put lots of street miles on your car before drag week. Be sure the car can handle ~95*F heat in traffic, be able to run on the highway for hundreds of miles in a stretch, and understand HotRod will put you on back country roads that are beat, pot holed and windy, as well as far from parts stores and machine shops. If you cap out around 60mph on the highway, expect to be driving at night, especially if you have mechanical problems. Expect rain as well, seems like every year involves rain. A huge part of Larson's success in unlimited is he does drive his car regularly through out the year, so the drive doesn't kill his car like it does most in the unlimited class. However same can be said for each class, a well sorted out drag car is usually found not to be so well sorted out on the street for more than 20 miles. That being said, it's awesome spending a week with like minded people that are usually ready to help you even if you are their direct competition. Because I don't go the track but maybe once or twice a year outside Drag Week I always worry about breaking my car on the track and last year I was easy on the car, this year I ran harder and found out my fuel pump wasn't adequately sized (I suspected as much for a long time), and I also ate an axle bearing on day 4 and replaced the bearing with a wide axle saver bearing since the axle was chewed up. Competition this year was way stiffer than last year in Big Block Naturally Aspirated. I don't go with the expectation to win, but to survive, run the best I can down the strip, and you never know might win by the faster cars breaking =P Two of my friends took spot one and two in the class I was running in, so I couldn't wish them too much bad luck :pp Infact, the guy who won SR BB/NA, Bill Fowler, I helped bleed his brakes at 1 AM on Day 3 when his brakes went out from a cracked brake line. Unless you are a good bracket racer I recommend signing up for a class. In your case it'd likely be Street Race Small Block Power Adder, unless you radically modify the suspension and other aspects of the car to be placed into the Super Street Race class. I'm hoping to complete some winter upgrades and go again next year. Could get pricey, I need new axles at minimum, a new fuel pump, hoping to get the heads ported, a new grind on the roller cam and a set of roller rockers.


    As for your fuel system set up. There is more than one way to skin a cat. I run a surge canister on two of my cars. With my '69 Firebird I'm contemplating getting an aftermarket gas tank meant for EFI with out a low hanging sump.
     
  14. 87GN@Tahoe

    87GN@Tahoe Well-Known Member

    Just completed an "8 hour" online traffic school in less than an hour, only missing two questions on the final. WOO HOO

    Now lets finish this car so I can go street racing:bla:

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    Man that sounds like a TON of fun. You've got a bit of work cut out for you. Perhaps we can caravan if I can ever find the time.

    My suspension will be stock with aftermarket bolt-on control arms, ARB, etc. Someday some double adjustable shocks/coilovers... after the "race" engine of course.

    I just took a closer look under the car today. If I do put an exterior sump on the tank, I would have to completely rip off the rear bumper before coming close to hitting the sump's theoretical location.
     
  15. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

    It is. One guy on another forum said he finally found the down side to Drag Week. Going to the drag strip on the weekend now is like drinking a beer after shooting whiskey all week, just isn't the same :laugh: I'm not even that quick, but it's an addiction :Dou:
     
  16. Dan Jones

    Dan Jones Well-Known Member

    Glad to hear you friend is okay. That's very nice fabrication work. I have
    a quick question. What's the purpose of the large taper angle of the runners?
    Carb intakes often use a small (1 to 3 degrees) of taper to speed up the flow
    so the fuel stays in suspension as it travels down the port. Is there some
    reason to do that with a turbo EFI application? Also, a radius lip around port
    entry in plenum has proven to improve flow into the ports. A friend tested a
    prototype intake with the radius and when the intake made it into production,
    it was down on power compared to the prototype as they had deleted the radius
    for the production version. Not likely a big deal for a pressurized plenum,
    though as it's easier to push into a port than it is to pull (suck through
    needs a large throttle body than blow through for that reason).

    Dan Jones
     
  17. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    Hows your welder friend Ansel White doing these days? I hope all is well with him,and he's back to his old self.

    And I wanted to bring this thread TTT. Good job!:TU:

    And was wondering where you're at with the build?
     
  18. bostongsx

    bostongsx Platinum Level Contributor

    X2 I want an intake
     
  19. 87GN@Tahoe

    87GN@Tahoe Well-Known Member

    Ansel is doing good. He's VERY busy in his shop, and his help left for other ventures, so he's buried.

    I've been accumulating parts so when she goes under the knife it will be short and sweet. I'm having the tranny rebuilt in my Cummins 6bt powered Ramcharger, so the wagon is getting more DD duty... in the snow:mad:, but they don't put salt on the roads up here due to the environmentalists, so that's okay and it builds the car's "sleeper cred":3gears:

    He has a '91 Gallant VR4 waiting on a new head, so once that ships, and I have the new tranny in the Ramcharger, we can roll her in.

    Thanks for the bump.

    Wes
     
  20. This is the most awesome Buick related thing I have seen to date. Period.
     

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