Pre-Lube & Back-Up Oil System

Discussion in 'Race 400/430/455' started by Bluzilla, Apr 29, 2017.

  1. Bluzilla

    Bluzilla a.k.a. "THE DOCTOR"

    I mentioned how I would pre/filter as well as final filter the oil in one of my posts further up this page.

    Larry
     
  2. Bluzilla

    Bluzilla a.k.a. "THE DOCTOR"

    Since starting this thread I finally finished researching the electric pumps and settled on this self priming unit. It came with fittings and rubber anti-vibration mounts.
    I'll be ordering the remaining components shortly i.e. pre-filter, check valves, and remote filter housing. I still need to have the fittings for this system as well as my oil vapor separator system fitting and oil temp probe fitting welded into my pan. The sump of this pan is getting pretty busy.
    I'll post more photos as I go along with part numbers and descriptions.

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    Larry
     
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2018
  3. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    I think were goin oil nutzo. If you cash in all the oil mod add ons one could probably buy a Tomahawk. A stock swap Tomahawk beets an iron block
     
  4. Bluzilla

    Bluzilla a.k.a. "THE DOCTOR"

    Just so folks understand, ..... the advantages of everything I posted in this thread I started, is just as advantageous with a Tomahawk Block as with an Iron Block.

    In fact once someone understands the purpose of these systems, I feel it should be especially useful in a Tomahawk application more than any due to the major investment. After all .... if someone can afford the Tomahawk build then one would think they may want to consider taking some of these measures throughout this thread to protect it.

    Prelube lubrication as well as emergency oil backup is beneficial to any engine .... no matter what the cost of the block , how it's designed, or what it's made of.

    But in the end it's all about "Peace of Mind". :cool:

    Larry
     
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2018
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  5. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Larry, I like the look of that pump. will take up less room than the Master Lube reservoir. Keep me posted on the progress.
     
  6. Bluzilla

    Bluzilla a.k.a. "THE DOCTOR"

    Will do Steve.

    Larry
     
  7. sailbrd

    sailbrd Well-Known Member

    Wouldn't you still need a reservoir with the pump?
     
  8. Bluzilla

    Bluzilla a.k.a. "THE DOCTOR"

    Nope, .... the engine oil pan sump is the reservoir. It will draw oil from the oil pan via a fitting that's welded lower down on the sump, and up through a brass screen, to the pump, then one way check valve, then adjustable pressure switch, then to one of the two inlet ports of the CV746 remote oil filter housing (the other inlet is from the main engine oil pump with an optional check valve) and then into the engine. All of the pre-lube pump lines will be 1/2" ID line. Sounds like a lot of commotion but it's actually very simple.
    There will be a Master Switch as well as a switch (with integrated light) to bypass the adjustable oil pressure activated switch. A simple indicator light will illuminate while the pump is on.
    I'll include a diagram from Infinity Aerospace, though my diagram in the near future will ultimately differ slightly.

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    Larry
     
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2018
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  9. Robs455

    Robs455 Well-Known Member

    Larry, why did you choose the Marco pump and not the Infinity pump?
     
  10. Bluzilla

    Bluzilla a.k.a. "THE DOCTOR"

    Rob, After I did the research, ... Marco is a large fluid transfer pump manufacturer with a good reputation and is available at a better price point. When I spoke to the owner of Infinity, my take on it was that he buys his pumps from a manufacturer and applies his company name.

    Larry
     
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  11. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    Another advantage of a pump like this could be used in full filled blocks to run the oil through a cooler and back when sitting to help cool oil off.......wouldn't need as high as volume and pressure to do that
     
  12. Robs455

    Robs455 Well-Known Member

    Larry whats the progress? Im bought also the marco pump 16408012 and and clean the oil with this cheap relocatiom filter system. LS1 filter works great and the bestbof all he is very small. Can this pump suck the oil throught the filter or should the be the filter afterwards ?
    I will control the oil system with my digtal outpus (12V) from Holley HP ECU.

    Rob
     

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  13. Bluzilla

    Bluzilla a.k.a. "THE DOCTOR"

    Rob, I've been busy with other areas of the project at this time. It's one of those deals where the first piece of the puzzle has to be in the right place before fitting the rest of the pieces in. In my case I have stripped the entire engine compartment down to the firewall and raw fenders. That's because I am making patterns for firewall smooth plates that cover all the crazy dimples GM stakes in, .... and refinishing the forward frame/cross-member in "Hot Rod Black". I'm including a few photos of a customers '67 Chevelle that I make the plates for a few years back. After the plates are designed and installed I can paint and start the reassemble process. At that point I will determine the mounting location for the Marco Pump, check valves, and the remote filter. The Marco Pump may end up inside the Rt. fender, hidden above the skirt. I would still need to have relatively simple access to it though.

    The Marco Pump should be installed before the filter, ...... pushing oil through the filter, just like an electric fuel pump would be before the fuel filter. (see diagram in my post #38)

    Hope that helps.

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    Larry
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2018
  14. Robs455

    Robs455 Well-Known Member

    You did a very nice plate:)
    No problem, I‘m also in the middle of my restoration. Rear outer wheel housing aren‘t available for the 69, so I did my own to match it properly to the new side wall. I wish I had the complete sidewall.. good luck buddy
     

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  15. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    I bet you also make a very nice midplate, or front plate too.
     
  16. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    I see a very nice answer to the piddly upper control arm frame brackets that used to be there. Did you do away with them totaly? Or box them in?
     
  17. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    Also what are you usingfor motor mounts.
     

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